Tire Pressure-Altitude v/s Temperature??

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Roger Webb
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Cedar Rapids, IA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, David Brady
wrote:
>
> At Ernie Ekberg's request, I'm posting an email discussion
> to this forum that we had on the DieselRV's forum. The discussion
> we had addressed several questions regarding altitude and
> temperature on tire pressures. So I humbly put forth the following:
>
> These questions were asked on the DieselRV's forum:
>
> 1) As I go up in elevation, which has more effect on tire pressure,
the
> altitude or the colder temps?
>
> 2) At altitude, will my pressure raise or lower?
>
> 3) Higher temps probably mean higher pressures? True??
>
> 4) Colder temps, Less pressure. True?
>
> And the reply was as follows:
>
> gauge pressure = psig
> absolute pressure = psia
>
> gauge pressure is the difference between the internal
> absolute pressure of the tire and the ambient atmospheric
> pressure.
>
> If we pump a tire up to 100 psi gauge (psig) at sea level,
> the tire actually has 114.7 psi absolute (psia) pressure; i.e.,
> 100 psig plus 14.7 psia atmosphere.
>
> If we hypothetically ascend to 10000 feet, where the ambient air
> pressure is 10.2 psia, then the gauge pressure of the tire will
> read higher: 114.7 psia - 10.2 psia = 104.5 psig, read as gauge
> pressure.
>
> However, the absolute pressure in the tire has not changed,
> it's still 114.7 psia. The amount of air molecules in the tire has
> not changed. The tire will hold 114.7 psia even if it were placed
> in a vacuum.
>
> If one considers that a tire is not a rigid container, then the
tire will
> expand under a lesser ambient atmospheric pressure. This will
increase
> the tire volume, however slightly, with the result that the
absolute air
> pressure in the tire will decrease to something less then 114.7
psia.
> This contribution may be exceedingly small however.
>
> So, the tire pressure will read higher in terms of gauge pressure,
psig,
> while the absolute pressure, psia, in the tire has actually
decreased.
>
> Tire absolute pressure obeys the Ideal Gas Law: PV = nRT. Pressure
> and Temperature are in absolute terms, psia and degrees Kelvin.
>
> Tire absolute pressure is linear with respect to changes in T.
> Tire absolute pressure is also linear with respect to changes in V.
>
> Tire absolute pressure is proportional to T, an increase in
temperature
> increases tire psia.
> Tire absolute pressure is inversely proportion V, an increase in
volume
> decreases tire psia.
>
>
> So to answer the questions:
>
> 1) As I go up in elevation, which has more effect on tire pressure,
the
> altitude or the colder temps?
>
> The answer is: Temperature, however the effects of temperature and
> altitude tend to cancel one another out. For example:
>
> Consider our tire which was inflated to 100 psig at sea level,
> if we ascend to 10000 feet, where the ambient atmospheric air
pressure is
> 10.2 psia, then the gauge pressure of our tire will read higher:
114.7 psia
> minus 10.2 psia = 104.5 psig. A 4.5 psi increase.
>
> The air temperature at higher altitudes will be less than at sea
level.
> We can
> easily have 70 deg F at sea level but 35 degrees F at 10,000 feet.
In Kelvin
> terms this is a shift from 294 deg K to 275 deg K, or a decrease of
6.4%.
> Our tire psia will decrease by 6.4% from 114.7 psia to 107.2 psia.
Adjusted
> for gauge pressure at sea level, our psig will be 107.2 psia - 14.7
psia =
> 92.5 psig. A 7.5 psi decrease.
>
> Taken together, our combined 10000 foot altitude and 35 deg F
temperature
> will result in a gauge pressure of 107.2 psia - 10.2 psia = 97
psig, and our
> gauge pressure will range from 97 to 104.5 psig as temperature moves
> from 35 deg F to 70 deg F.
>
> So, while temperature prevails as the primary air pressure
motivator, in
> practice the combined effects of temperature and altitude tend to
cancel
> one
> another out.
>
> 2) At altitude, will my pressure raise or lower?
>
> The tire pressure will read higher in terms of gauge pressure, psig,
> but the absolute pressure, psia, in the tire will actually
decreased,
> however slightly.
>
> A tire is not a rigid container; it will expand as atmospheric air
pressure
> decreases. This will increase the tire volume, and this will cause
the
> absolute
> air pressure in the tire to decrease to something less then 114.7
psia;
> however, this contribution can probably be considered negligible.
>
> 3) Higher temps probably mean higher pressures? True??
>
> True.
>
> 4) Colder temps, Less pressure. True?
>
> True.
>
> David Brady
> '02 LXi, Smokey
> NC
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