Bird of the Week; was Re: buyer beware

[Henry Jay Hannigan]

--- Buyers should look on ....vintagebirds.com..for sale section to
find a bird.........sellers should send plenty of pictures as Tom
recommends.....Harvey & Kathy at vintage birdss are very nice people
and will go out of their way to accommodate you.
Regards,
Hank Hannigan..still chillin in Vegas
90SP36






In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> Interestingly enough, if you look at this week's Bird of the Week on
> the forum front page at http://www.wanderlodgeforum.org you will see one of
> the Bird's under discussion that is currently for sale. Ernie sent
in
> a picture of Tom's Bird.
>
> Tom, Maury, and others with Birds for sale:
> *If you don't already have a listing in the Classifieds Database,
why
> not add one now and provide a name link to a photo albumn?
> *After that, why not take some good photos and put them in a "80
FC33
> For Sale by xxxx" albumn in the Photos section? In the past few
> days, some of the interested potential buyers have posted good
> comments on what they would like to see in the photos. Each picture
> you add to the photo albumn can have a brief description of what the
> picture is or any upgrades in the picture.
>
> From a background check, new members looking for Birds can search on
> prior posts by "Tom Meservey" or "M.L. Perkinson" or any other
member
> with a Bird for Sale, to see what repairs and comments that they
have
> posted in the past on their Birds.
>
> Mike Bulriss - always in need of Bird of the Week Photos!
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "M.L. Perkinson"
> <mp222116@> wrote:
> >
> > Tom, I feel your pain. I Have a couple of times listed my 80fc
> because I am not a mechanically inclined person and think vintage
> birds are for them.
> >
> > Last time I listed it at $15 K and found that even when listed as
> firm the shoppers were looking to pick it up for a lot less. I too
> like to get bargains but Gee.
> >
> > Anyway it is paid for and in fine shape and inspite of upkeep and
> fuel prices I figure I am way ahead of investing in an SOB and
paying
> higher taxes, insurance,etc.
> >
> > However in your case being a two bird owner I know you are
> frustrated. I bought mine from a two bird person. Bought a lot of
> trouble because I thought he was a better person than he was. We
were
> having dinner after we closed the deal and a guy came up to our
table
> and said"Hey, I see you finally unloaded it!" Oman for the
beginning
> of troubles. Maury 80fc31'
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tom Meservey
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:52 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] buyer beware
> >
> >
> > As of late several members have bought coachs at what they
thought
> was a real bargin, only to find out many of the little hidden things
> that one CANNOT see, and have them ended up with a "not so great
bargin."
> >
> > Here I am sitting with a 33 foot 1981 BB, in excellant running
and
> material condition, offered up at a reasonable price twice on eBay,
> and not one taker. Yes the exterier is going to need painting, but
> there is NO rust, the bumpers are in tact, and there is a new
replaced
> parts list a mile long. I have documented everything I have done or
> had done. New air bags on a '81 alone are worth alot, plus new air
> compressor, electric dump valves etc. This forum is great for
> "lurkers" to find out what is what, and get a chance to talk to
people
> before they buy. Why then are people still buying 'birds that have
so
> many issues that they ARE back yard projects. Beats me.
> >
> > Tom Meservey, USN (Ret)
> > Ladson, SC
> >
> >
> > WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > Wanderlodge Forum
> > Messages In This Digest (9 Messages)
> > 1a.
> > Re: Blue Bird Clock From: g_man1146
> > 2.
> > Check Transmission Light 86pt 8V92 do not shift From: Gregory
OConnor
> > 3.
> > Mobile Satellite Television System From: heeneyfwaolcom
> > 4a.
> > East Coast rally in Vernon NY June 8-10,2007 From: Tom Warner
> > 5a.
> > Re: Lighter Switch Source??? From: Jack and Liz Pearce
> > 6a.
> > Some FC 31 questions From: ultrask824
> > 6b.
> > Re: Some FC 31 questions From: grizz46s
> > 7a.
> > 84FC35 ride height From: Keith Strehle
> > 7b.
> > Re: 84FC35 ride height From: Ralph L. Fullenwider
> > View All Topics | Create New Topic
> > Messages
> > 1a.
> > Re: Blue Bird Clock Posted by: "g_man1146" gman1146@ g_man1146
> Thu May 3, 2007 6:51 am (PST) Hi Bob,
> >
> > I saw that and wondered why the high price. Is an original
worth so
> > much more than a replica that can be easily made by anyone with
basic
> > high school shop woodworking skills and a $5.00 quartz
movement? Just
> > curious.
> >
> > Rich D. '99LXi43' CT
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "robertnloomas"

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Anybody looking for a blue bird wall clock there is one on
ebay
> > > Bob Loomas 1985 PT
> > >
> >
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> > Messages in this topic (2)
> >
> > 2.
> > Check Transmission Light 86pt 8V92 do not shift Posted by:
> "Gregory OConnor" Gregoryoc@ gregoryoconnor Thu May 3, 2007 6:54 am
> (PST) Ryan wrote:
> > The "Check
> > trans" switch, when flipped the opposite direction of what it
was,
> > caused the "check trans" light to flash the code: Three quick
flashes,
> > short pause, two more flashes, long pause, repeat. So, first
digit 3,
> > second 2 = code 32. Having read OBD diagnostic codes off of
cars for
> > years (many early systems would flash the "check engine" light
in the
> > same manner to show you the codes) this was second nature to me.
> >
> > So, I called Mr. Oliver's and Paul gave me a name & phone
number, and
> > that person found an Allison dealer close to me and also looked
up the
> > code info.
> >
> > As for the "J" solenoid, apparently it regulates shifting. This
makes
> > sense given that the light only comes on after shifting. ~$200
+ 4-5
> > hours labor to replace I'm told. I'll find out for sure in the
> > morning, I suppose.
> >
> > -Ryan
> > 86pt40 8V
> > On the Road
> >
> > Ryan I reposted your informative post under a new thread
because it
> > holds good info. The thread subject name and "proper ID of bus"
will
> > help others find the info.
> >
> > I think it a good idea to remind the Allison Tec that the bus 1)
has a
> > batterybank 2)bank gets depleated during long storage 3)a very
high
> > amp alt. If the J solenoid is shifting properly, why change it.
The
> > code may be generated by some volt, wire, or connection problem
that
> > wont get replaced with the new internal part. The early warning
light
> > is proving to be a wolfcry. Dependent on; amps, ohms, volts,
and all
> > that 'lectric bull, the computer warning lights fail to warn of
a
> > problem with the warning.
> >
> > I had an Allison tranny shop do my first oil change filter
service
> > because I wanted a pro to have a look at old oil character and
filter
> > deposits and run the bus down the road. That invoice was around
> > 500.00
> >
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94ptRomolandCa
> >
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> > Messages in this topic (1)
> >
> > 3.
> > Mobile Satellite Television System Posted by: "heeneyfwaolcom"
> heeneyfw@ heeneyfwaolcom Thu May 3, 2007 7:03 am (PST) I have a
> Cruise TV DBS-30500 Mobile Satellite Dish system that I no
> > longer need. It is free to a good home. We upgraded to a "In
Motion"
> > system several years ago and now we no longer need this system.
It
> has
> > been in storage since and although I can not guarantee, there is
> every
> > reason to believe it will still work as good as it did when I
> removerd
> > it from the coach. It comes with motorized dish, control box
and
> > wiring and manual. To use it you park the coach level, look up
> > location in manual, dial in coordinates and it will find and
lock on
> > the satellite.
> > If you would like to have this unit all you have to do is e-
mail me
> > directly. heeneyfw@ Give me your location and I will tell you
> > your approx cost. Then you pay for shipping by FedEx and
packaging.
> >
> > Frank & Rosemarie Heeney
> > 1987 PT 40
> > Where Eagles Dare
> > Camden, MI
> >
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> > Messages in this topic (1)
> >
> > 4a.
> > East Coast rally in Vernon NY June 8-10,2007 Posted by: "Tom
> Warner" warbucks@ warbucks13477 Thu May 3, 2007 7:15 am (PST) Some
> BB owners are putting together a simple rally for June
> > 8-10 on the East coast in Vernon,New York. Shane Fedeli and Tom
> > Sorrentino have suggested June 8-10th. Its open as to what we
do
> > although we can install upgrades or go over troubleshooting,
reading
> > factory schematics etc on the coaches. Not looking for
something to
> > structured as far as meals etc that is open for discussion.
> >
> > Right now its open as to dry camping where we are close to
tools etc
> > in my shop or one of the local RV parks. The Turning stone
casino RV
> > park is beautiful but at $45/day a little pricy but I might be
able
> > to get that reduced http://turning-stone.com/lodging/rvpark/.
There
> > is also a RV park on Lake Oneida which is close at
> > $28/night http://www.treasureislervpark.com/ Here is another RV
> > park close by to me: http://www.aokcampgroundofnewyork.com/
rates
> are $25/day
> >
> > Its also open as to whether you bring your families as there is
a
> > lot to do in this area. Casino has good floor shows,
restaurants etc
> > are excellent http://turning-stone.com/calendar/. The area also
has
> > some of the best old world italian restaurants closebye where
you can
> > get handmade italian food at noon for less then $5 including
home
> > made bread and of course lots of italian pastries. There are
other
> > restaurants close by such as large chinese buffets that are
very
> > reasonable. Also close by is the Oneida Silver company where we
can
> > get beautiful silver and stainless steel etc and very reduced
prices.
> > Send me a private message if you are interested.
> >
> > tom warner
> > vernon center,ny
> > 1985 PT 40
> >
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> > Messages in this topic (11)
> >
> > 5a.
> > Re: Lighter Switch Source??? Posted by: "Jack and Liz Pearce"
> jlpearce@ homesicktexans_33009 Thu May 3, 2007 8:03 am (PST) Howdy,
> Chet.
> > Thanks for the reply and I apologize for being so late. Called
BB
> > parts and that's about the same price PLUS shipping and
handling.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Liz Pearce
> > Regards,
> > Jack and Liz Pearce
> > Fulltiming in a 1993 Wanderlodge WB40
> > Wintering In Hondo, TX - 2006
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "chet geist"
wrote:
> > >
> > > Go to the nearest wholesale commercial electrical supplier
they
> > should have
> > > one. Don't forget your check book they are not cheap. The one
I
> > purchased
> > > cost me $25.36.
> > >
> > > Chet Geist
> > > 1981 FC33, Austin, Texas
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jack
and Liz
> > Pearce
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:06 PM
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Lighter Switch Source???
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > Messages in this topic (3)
> >
> > 6a.
> > Some FC 31 questions Posted by: "ultrask824" ultrask824@
> ultrask824 Thu May 3, 2007 8:39 am (PST) I am talking to a seller
with
> a 77 FC 31, 3208 NA. He says he cruises
> > at 67 mph and gets 10mpg, I am wondering about the accuracy of
this.
> > I saw the RPM chart on Vintage Birds, the 67mph is possible
with the
> > larger tires (I don't know what size he has on it) at 2700 rpm.
> >
> > The price seems reasonable , $19k, (no leveling jacks tho),
looking
> > for some input or helpful info.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jonny
> >
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> >
> > 6b.
> > Re: Some FC 31 questions Posted by: "grizz46s" roggie@ grizz46s
> Thu May 3, 2007 9:15 am (PST) --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> "ultrask824" > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I am talking to a seller with a 77 FC 31, 3208 NA. He says he
> cruises
> > > at 67 mph and gets 10mpg, I am wondering about the accuracy of
> this.
> > > I saw the RPM chart on Vintage Birds, the 67mph is possible
with the
> > > larger tires (I don't know what size he has on it) at 2700
rpm.
> > >
> > > The price seems reasonable , $19k, (no leveling jacks tho),
looking
> > > for some input or helpful info.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Jonny
> > >
> > I have an 81 fc with the 3208, and I would say that the cruise
> speed is
> > most likely accurate or at least close. The milage at that
speed may
> > be a bit of an exaggeration. I find to get that mileage I have
to
> keep
> > the speed closer to 55. As for the price, it is really difficult
> to say
> > without more info. Are the jacks the only system that is
inoperative?
> > There are a great many things that could cost far more to
repair than
> > the jacks. Look it over closely. I purchased a coach on the
owner's
> > word that the only thing wrong with the coach was the tach.
When I
> got
> > there to pick it up I found a coach that looked very good on
the
> > outside, but was very poor condition on the inside. Replacing
> flooring,
> > AC units, heaters, toilet, exhaust fans, and reupholstering,
made a
> > reasonable price no longer so reasonable. My advice, "Buyer be
ware!"
> > Check it over closely, if the majority of the systems are in
good
> > woring order 19K is a good price in my estimation, but be very
> careful
> > or you can end up like me. I will be happy when I am done, but
it has
> > cost me far more than I had anticipated to get there.
> > Gene
> >
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> >
> > 7a.
> > 84FC35 ride height Posted by: "Keith Strehle" strehlekeith@
> strehlekeith Thu May 3, 2007 8:55 am (PST) How difficult is it to
> adjust the ride height on my 84FC? What is the
> > proper ride height and where do I measure from?
> >
> > Should I have someone do this for me?
> >
> > Keith
> > 84FC35
> >
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> >
> > 7b.
> > Re: 84FC35 ride height Posted by: "Ralph L. Fullenwider" rlf47@
> rlfrvtech Thu May 3, 2007 9:13 am (PST) Keith:
> >
> > There should be a blue folder in your blue box for the ridewell
air
> > suspension system. It will direct you on how to set the ride
> height and you
> > can do it yourself. It is time consuming though and best to make
> small
> > adjustments, run the coach around the block then measure, then
> adjust and
> > go around the block and so forth. The front will be aprox 1 inch
> lower in
> > the front and that is normal.
> >
> > Safe travels,
> >
> > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > 84FC35
> > Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
> >
> > At 03:52 PM 5/3/2007 +0000, you wrote:
> > >How difficult is it to adjust the ride height on my 84FC? What
is the
> > >proper ride height and where do I measure from?
> > >
> > >Should I have someone do this for me?
> > >
> > >Keith
> > >84FC35
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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