buyer beware
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05-04-2007, 11:11
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buyer beware
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
wrote: Ill bet you would $30 K for a older bird with new tires breaks air bags 2500 inverter new refrigerator new batteries and generator new back up camera and not least new flooring so would I Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36 > > And again my position as a buyer. My first preference would be a > completely "ready to go" older FC rear bath coach needing nothing. At > a price which is "fair". And I have seen some likely prospects. > Coaches which have had leather interior and repaints which have > pushed the asking prices into the range of the pushers. See that's > the problem. I've fooled around with antique car restorations and > this is so similar. A restored vehicle is not likely to sell for the > cost of the restoration. I feel some sympathy for the seller when > you know what he has invested to get it right but as a buyer paying > for his restoration just doesn't work either. So what's a nice coach > like I am looking for really worth? Well, it's worth exactly the > price negotiated between the seller and the buyer and there is the > rub. There are a couple real nice newerFC buses on the Bill Board > right now with prices from 50 to 60K. So are they in competition with > the pushers (?) I can't say. And what does that tell you about the > older FC's. One fellow has a 1975 listed for 30K. I e-mailed him > see what he comes back with. From what I have been able to figure to > this point his bus would have to be a ready to go coach plus some. > But on the other hand as a buyer I could see that a guy could easily > spend $15k and then in a short time spend an additional $15K to get > it right. Price is certainly not cost. Not to belabor a point. If > you have something worth the money do the work required to prove it. > I could see spending $30 for a really nicely restored older coach but > it would have to be exactly what I want with the proof there of. So > I guess what I am saying is that I personally am not looking for a > fixer upper. I can do some repairs but frankly its not my idea of > fun. Certainly others would feel differently. JEH > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/4/07, davidkerryedwards > > > > > > Hence, the market for older Wanderlodge's with some needed > repairs will > > > probably always be a little more healthy than for refurbished > coaches. > > > > Kerry, > > > > I agree to an extent. Personally, I think most people would rather > > have a refurbished coach - I know I looked for one that was > advertised > > as not having any problems. The disconnect between buyer and seller > > comes in price: Most buyers aren't willing to pay a premium for this > > work. > > > > In my search, I found that people were tending to sell "average" > > coaches in a certain price range - what I considered "market price". > > Then there were the occasional "refurbished" coaches where folks > > wanted twenty grand above "market price". I wasn't going to pay > that. > > In fact, I wasn't going to pay "market price" for a coach with a lot > > of problems, either. > > > > As a buyer, here's how it worked for me: A good coach with nothing > > wrong commands full market value, perhaps slightly more. In my > range I > > identified mid eighties PT-40s and the market value I came to was > > about $50,000. Now, I wasn't going to pay full market value for a > > coach with a lot of issues. Something that needed major work I might > > have paid $35k for, but sellers still thought they could get $50k. > On > > the flip side, many "perfect" coaches, folks were wanting $80k. > > > > When all was said and done I did find a very good coach with almost > no > > problems (few things here and there, but they all have those) right > > near what I considered to be fair market value. This tells me that > > those wanting $80k for their similar coaches are high, as are those > > wanting $50k for something that needs $20k worth of work to make it > > half as nice as mine. > > > > So, there's my two cents worth. > > > > -Ryan > > '86 PT-40 8V92 > > Tri-Cities, WA > > > |
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buyer beware - Tom Meservey - 05-03-2007, 06:52
buyer beware - bubblerboy64 - 05-04-2007, 00:22
buyer beware - M.L. Perkinson - 05-04-2007, 02:55
buyer beware - bubblerboy64 - 05-04-2007, 04:02
buyer beware - davidkerryedwards - 05-04-2007, 04:37
buyer beware - Ryan Wright - 05-04-2007, 07:00
buyer beware - bubblerboy64 - 05-04-2007, 07:48
buyer beware - robertnloomas - 05-04-2007 11:11
buyer beware - bubblerboy64 - 05-04-2007, 12:18
buyer beware - bubblerboy64 - 05-04-2007, 13:32
buyer beware - Mike Hohnstein - 05-04-2007, 13:57
buyer beware - ac7880 - 05-04-2007, 14:12
buyer beware - davidkerryedwards - 05-04-2007, 14:13
buyer beware - Mike Hohnstein - 05-04-2007, 15:35
buyer beware - bubblerboy64 - 05-04-2007, 22:49
buyer beware - brad barton - 05-05-2007, 00:52
buyer beware - Gregory OConnor - 05-05-2007, 01:29
buyer beware - Pete Masterson - 05-05-2007, 01:42
buyer beware - bluebirdsp36 - 05-05-2007, 03:19
buyer beware - pattypape - 05-05-2007, 03:23
buyer beware - Leroy Eckert - 05-05-2007, 03:50
buyer beware - bubblerboy64 - 05-05-2007, 06:39
buyer beware - Leroy Eckert - 05-05-2007, 07:13
buyer beware - Gardner Yeaw - 05-05-2007, 14:01
buyer beware - Gary Miller - 05-05-2007, 18:35
buyer beware - bubblerboy64 - 05-05-2007, 23:36
buyer beware - Gregory OConnor - 05-06-2007, 02:55
buyer beware - bubblerboy64 - 05-06-2007, 03:39
buyer beware - Robert Britton - 05-06-2007, 03:47
buyer beware - Gary Miller - 05-06-2007, 04:19
buyer beware - Gary Miller - 05-06-2007, 04:22
buyer beware - pattypape - 05-06-2007, 04:31
buyer beware - Pete Masterson - 05-06-2007, 07:04
buyer beware - Mike Hohnstein - 05-06-2007, 15:03
buyer beware - Gregory OConnor - 05-06-2007, 16:09
buyer beware - mbulriss - 05-07-2007, 03:14
buyer beware - Henry Jay Hannigan - 05-07-2007, 03:29
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