Installing new guage.

[Curt Sprenger]

Bill,
Thank you for your call a few days back...and your insite is right on.
Folks, pay attention...me too.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.



pattypape wrote:

>
> Leroy,
>
> We are learning, I have not found a dealer that stocks the Teleflex
> gages, West Marine will special order ,But your part numbers must be
> correct, or you may own the mistake.
> BB has gages , but as of my last experiences their sensors do not
> match. So it is best to get the correct part numbers from Joe at
> Teleflex Marine tech support.
>
> Bill 88 FC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , "Leroy Eckert"
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Bill. I received your e-mail and answered it. You didn't
> receive my response so here it is. Seems like the electronic
> world doesn't always get r done. They gotta dig up some more cable to
> keep it going.
> > I e-mailed the company and they do not stock the parts. I suppose I
> can order them. I also contacted Teleflex and have a list of senders
> by part number and ID that will work . I e-mailed Earl at BB and have
> not heard back. I expect to hear form him on Monday. I have found I
> get a very rapid response from BB via e-mail.
> > One would concluded that senders would be available for the gauges.
> What I have determined is this. The International Line is shipped
> primarily to manufacturers. Boats, motorhomes etc. That is the
> market.
> > I certainly appreciate your help.
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Niceville, FL
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: pattypape
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 7:04 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Installing new guage.
> >
> >
> >
> > Recently My Happy Mouse trigger finger sent a few replys direct
> to an
> > e-mail address rather than to the forum posting.
> >
> > So, I hope this answer to Leroy can help someone, This has worked
> on
> > our 88 FC using the replacement BB/Teleflex oil temp gage #
> 9153278.
> >
> > This sensor will work correctly with the oil temp gage.It has
> > several different bushings with various thread sizes to fit the
> > engine block ports. Stewart-Warner part # SW280 EE-F
> > Available at a big truck parts store or I purchased from South
> West
> > Brake, 248-486-9866 about $15 to 20.00.
> > I do not know about the water temp gages or sensors. And Yes, the
> > bezels can be exchanged with the new gage to match the other dash
> > gages.
> >
> > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , "Leroy Eckert"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok. Jim in FL and Bill in MI
> > > I received the gauges from BB. The engine oil temp gauge is
> > Teleflex pn 9153278 and is a substitute for the original gauge.
> The
> > index begins with 140 and the bezel is different. I believe the
> > original bezel can be placed on this gauge but I have decided to
> > paint the elevated ring silver with a paint stick. The genset
> water
> > temp gauge has the same index (from memory I will verify this
> w/e)
> > and the same bezel as the engine oil temp gauge. The genset oil
> > pressure gauge has the same index and the same bezel as the
> original
> > gauge. Go figure that out. All of them have new Teleflex pn's.
> The
> > faces are virtually identical.
> > > BB sent me a tranny sender for the engine oil pressure gauge. I
> > will put that on the tranny.
> > > Jim, based on your post should I call Teleflex and order the
> sender
> > for the new configuration gauge?
> > > Thanks;
> > > Leroy Eckert
> > > 1990WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> > > Niceville, FL
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: jim riordan
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:16 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Installing new guage.
> > >
> > >
> > > Leroy,
> > >
> > > I just replaced many flaky guages on my coach. I got the new
> > guage from BB. the indexing was different and better. I called BB
> > (earl) to get the correct (new) sending unit he sent me the wrong
> one!
> > an 028 I then called teleflex Joe Federsal and spoke to him he
> sent
> > the correct one an 032, i called earl and told him that he needed
> to
> > check with Teleflex about stocking the correct sending unit for
> this
> > guage. The guage is better because it is more presise than the
> old
> > one.
> > > Jim Riordan
> > > 88 WBWL XXV
> > >
> > > Leroy Eckert wrote:
> > > Thanks Howard:
> > > I'll give them a call.
> > > Leroy Eckert
> > > 1990WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> > > Niceville, FL
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: truitt44@
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:25 AM
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Installing new guage.
> > >
> > > Leroy,
> > > Contact Chuck at APT Instruments in Bloomington, Mn. about
> > servicing Teleflex gauges 952-881-7095.
> > > Howard Truitt
> > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > 86 PT40
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: "Leroy Eckert"
> > > > Date: 2007/06/04 Mon AM 09:59:05 EDT
> > > > To: > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Installing new guage.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I want to pass along information I am receiving from
> Teleflex,
> > Bluebird and other suppliers I e-mailed over the weekend. Oil
> > Temperature gauge 54438 Bluebird part number 3865334 shows to be
> in
> > stock at Bluebird today. I will see if the indexing is the same
> when
> > I receive it. According to Teleflex this and other Teleflex
> gauges
> > Bluebird used are no longer in production and are no longer
> available
> > if Bluebird does not have inventory. I am replacing 3 flakey
> gauges
> > now while they are available.
> > > > Steve Birtles and I are searching for an instrument shop to
> > rebuild the original gauges. I would like to keep my bird dash
> > looking original. In the long term that may be difficult to do.
> > > >
> > > > Leroy Eckert
> > > > 1990WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> > > > Niceville, FL
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: pattypape
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 9:36 AM
> > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Installing new guage.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jim,
> > > >
> > > > Yep, that is the correct gage, Teleflex # 9153278.
> > > >
> > > > The BB# 54438 was still a good number, But
> > > > they shipped the updated 9153278 gage , Then the temp would
> read
> > > > really high, That is why there is a lot of confusion , when
> > > > replacing gages, the sensor must be replaced also.
> > > > I like the new scale for the oil temp,200 to 230
> > > > Not so good for the rear axle because, it only heats up to
> > about
> > > > 140 to 170. lowest part of the gage.
> > > >
> > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , jim riordan
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > The new guage is not a 54438 Earl said the did not maske it
> > > > anymore. He sent me a "superseded" one the index numbers were
> > > > different. He sent me a new sensor it was for the old type
> > guage it
> > > > was reading 40% high. I called Teleflex spoke to Joe Federsal
> > (great
> > > > help) he sent me the correct sensor for the guage that I got
> > from
> > > > earl, everything seems to work now. This new guage 9153278 is
> > > > improved in that it first register point is at 140 rather
> than
> > 100,
> > > > top is 320 like the old one. the end result is that the gauge
> > will
> > > > provide more accurate readings in the operational range than
> > the old
> > > > one. I hope!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim RIordan
> > > > > 88 WBWL XXV
> > > > > Stuart, Fl.
> > > > > pattypape wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim,
> > > > >
> > > > > I replaced both oil temp gages on our 88 FC ( 3208 oil and
> > rear
> > > > axle
> > > > > temps) BB gage part number 54438, It is a Teleflex gage.
> > > > >
> > > > > If this is your gage the temp sensor is a Stewart-Warner,
> > part
> > > > > number 280EEF . It is available at truck parts stores. It
> has
> > > > > several threaded bushings for all thread sizes, One will
> > match the
> > > > > original threads. BB did not have the correct sensor.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , jim riordan
>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have just replace my oil temp guage. I got it from BB
> and
> > it is
> > > > > indexed differently from the original one. I needed to get
> a
> > new
> > > > temp
> > > > > sending switch also...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jim Riordan
> > > > > > 88 WBWL XXV
> > > > > > Stuart, Fl.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Ralph L. Fullenwider" wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Art:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > **CAUTION** **CAUTION**
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Remove the 4 bottom out side covers of the lower dash. If
> > the
> > > > lower
> > > > > dash
> > > > > > has been out before then it should lift up from the front
> > edge
> > > > and
> > > > > slip
> > > > > > forward a little. If it has not been out before then on
> the
> > left
> > > > > side of
> > > > > > the lower dash, under one of the blank covers, will be a
> > screw
> > > > that
> > > > > has to
> > > > > > come out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, with the lower dash panel slid forward, remove the
> cb
> > mic
> > > > from
> > > > > the
> > > > > > holder and take the long screw out that holds the cb mic
> > holder.
> > > > > Now the
> > > > > > upper lower dash should be free on that side and if it
> has
> > been
> > > > > removed it
> > > > > > will probably be free to tilt forward. If it has not been
> > out
> > > > > before then
> > > > > > you need a looooong phillips screwdriver, hold the right
> > side of
> > > > > the upper
> > > > > > lower dash out and reach in with the long phillips and un
> > screw
> > > > the
> > > > > far
> > > > > > left L bracket. In the bottom center of the upper lower
> > dash,
> > > > after
> > > > > the
> > > > > > lower panel is moved forward you should see a screw that
> > needs to
> > > > > come out
> > > > > > as well. Now your upper lower dash panel should be free
> to
> > tilt
> > > > > forward.
> > > > > > **CAUTION** Do NOT force it, if it won't come out enough
> to
> > > > replace
> > > > > the
> > > > > > gauge, find what is holding it. I cannot stress
> **CAUTION**
> > > > enough
> > > > > on this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While your in there, remove the light sockets with the
> > lamps from
> > > > > the other
> > > > > > gauges and clean or replace them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your going to find a "rats nest" of wiring under and
> behind
> > both
> > > > > panels.
> > > > > > Remember if you drill, spindle or pierce any of those
> > panels,
> > > > they
> > > > > are shot
> > > > > > and cannot be brought back. Use only holes provided for
> > screws
> > > > and
> > > > > such.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good luck
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Safe travels,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > > > > > 84FC35
> > > > > > Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 06:44 PM 5/10/2007 +0000, you wrote:
> > > > > > >I have recieved a new engine oil temp guage from the
> > fellow I
> > > > > bought
> > > > > > >my coach from. Now to install it. The guage is on the
> > verticle
> > > > > part of
> > > > > > >the dash panel.Has anyone been into that panel? Any
> advise
> > will
> > > > be
> > > > > > >better than me going in there blind!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >Riverside Ca.
> > > > > > >'85 PT36
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