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Firestone tires bouncing
08-14-2007, 08:45
Post: #9
Firestone tires bouncing
I'd look at it from the other side.

- With a bad tire you may need a shock or shocks soon, even if the
shocks are good now. A good shock will become a worn shock quickly
with a bad tire. Other suspension components also suffer.

- If the shocks are bad and the tire(s) good, its the bus that does
the bouncing rather than the tire and wheel. (The tires won't stay
stuck to the road as well with bad shocks, however.)

- its easier to tell you have a bad tire when the shocks are worn.
That's because a worn shock lets the tire bounce more easily. A bad
shock will let a good tire bounce once or twice due to a bump in the
road - but it won't make the tire bounce constantly with each
revolution.

I've had tires do the highway-hop for two reasons: Either a good
tire has gone out of balance, or the tire is working its way toward
failure, usually due to a structural defect in the tire.

Remember that a bouncing tire is out of touch with the road part of
the time, and it has much less traction as a result.

Bob Griesel





--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry Dill
wrote:
>
> Pete,
> The thought occurred to me that if this bouncing that you are
experiencing, maybe you should have the shocks checked... Could be
that they are the ewuipment that is causing the bouncing...
> HTH
>
> Sea Ya
> Larry
> NYC
> 84 35FCSB
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Pete Amerson Jr
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:37:07 AM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Firestone tires bouncing
>
> We generally drive the the RV about 70 on the interstate.
> I suppose my questions are these.
> Should these tires bounce at any speed if they are balanced?
> Is most likely the problem with the type of balancing used or them
> being Firestone tires?
> Is one type of tire balancing better suited to RV's than another?
>
> Thanks for all of your help and comments.
>
> Pete Amerson
> 87 PT-40
> Atmore, AL
>
> -- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Leroy Eckert"
> wrote:
> >
> > Mike is correct of course, he lives there. I ran I-10 two weeks
> ago at speeds, well, I was in my pickup. I would not drive my coach
> that fast because it is not necessary and would have other things
to
> do along the way, it is not a race car. The family would be inside.
> The roads in West Texas are good and the Black & White's hang out
in
> the weeds, with radar, and backup.
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Niceville, FL
> > The Constable in Van Horn is behind on his house payment.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: mbulriss
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 5:33 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Firestone tires bouncing
> >
> >
> > The speed limit on IH-10 from Kerrville to outside of El Paso is
> > 80MPH. Over 400 miles of road.
> >
> > AFAIK, the most common 'dust type' material used to balance big
> rig
> > tires is a product named EQUAL. EQUAL is a plastic polymer granule
> > unaffected by moisture. It is discussed frequently on many RV and
> Bus
> > discussion boards.
> >
> > From the EQUAL manufacturer' s web site FAQ at
> > http://imiproducts. com/equal/ faqs.aspx comes the following FAQ:
> >
> > Q - If water is inside a tire, does it have any effect on EQUAL,
> and
> > if so, what is the effect?
> > Answer:
> > * EQUAL Tire Performance does NOT ABSORB water in any way.
> > * Due to the fact that EQUAL is a plastic polymer granule, water
> > or moisture will not change its composition.
> > * Moisture that accumulates inside the tire will evaporate due to
> > normal driving conditions and therefore is in contact with EQUAL
> for a
> > very short time.
> > * EQUAL, when in contact with large amounts of water, (to the
> > point where it is actually floating freely), will do just that,
> float.
> > This will interfere with the ability of EQUAL to optimize the
> given
> > tire in the way that the tire dealer or fleet had intended when
> > installing the product. Simply, this means that although EQUAL
> will
> > never damage the tire in any way, if it is in contact with large
> > amounts of water, it cannot perform its job. Again, it is
> important to
> > reiterate, that in most cases, moisture will evaporate due to the
> heat
> > build up in normal driving, and once the moisture has evaporated,
> > EQUAL will perform as it originally did.
> >
> > FWIW,
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Pete Masterson

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if 78 mph is legal in any state -- and most heavy
> duty
> > > tires are rated to 70 or 75 mph maximum anyway.
> > >
> > > The "dust type material" used to balance tires is very
> sensitive to
> > > excess moisture -- it will clump if there's too much moisture
> in the
> > > tire (and the moisture comes in with the compressed air).
> > >
> > > Pete Masterson
> > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > El Sobrante CA
> > > aeonix1@
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Aug 13, 2007, at 12:31 PM, Pete Amerson Jr wrote:
> > >
> > > > Back in Feb I had all tires replaced with Firestone. They put
> a dust
> > > > type material in the tires to balance them while it is being
> driven. I
> > > > then drove it about 10 miles to storage. A couple of weeks
> ago I drove
> > > > the RV and when I got to about 75 mph it started bouncing on
> one of
> > > > the
> > > > back tires. I carried it back to the tire store and they
> checked the
> > > > balance and said that it may be the tire or it may be the rim
> but they
> > > > would put another tire on anyway. Now it has a bounce about
> 78 mph.
> > > > Is this to be expected with firestone tires or should I not
> be driving
> > > > that fast anyway?
> > > > Since I got the tires I have put anout 200 miles on them, all
> below 70
> > > > mph.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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Messages In This Thread
Firestone tires bouncing - Pete Amerson Jr - 08-13-2007, 07:31
Firestone tires bouncing - Pete Masterson - 08-13-2007, 09:46
Firestone tires bouncing - mbulriss - 08-13-2007, 10:33
Firestone tires bouncing - Don Bradner - 08-13-2007, 10:53
Firestone tires bouncing - Leroy Eckert - 08-13-2007, 11:12
Firestone tires bouncing - Pete Amerson Jr - 08-14-2007, 02:37
Firestone tires bouncing - Gregory OConnor - 08-14-2007, 02:59
Firestone tires bouncing - Larry Dill - 08-14-2007, 05:29
Firestone tires bouncing - freewill2008 - 08-14-2007 08:45



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