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oil type for 8v 92
10-08-2007, 07:24
Post: #15
oil type for 8v 92
Hey Rob,

Yeah, we're saying the same thing. Kind of funny that the DD link to
their lubricating standards on their Motorcoach front page is to their
older brochure from 2005 (7SE270 0510). In that one they list a
table in Section 2.2 that basically says 40wt preferred and 50wt
secondary.

Then they go on to say (in part):
3. For continuous high temperature operation (over 200° F or 93° C
coolant out), the use of an SAE grade 50 lubricant in DDC two-stroke
cycle Series 53, 71 and 92 engines is required. SAE grade 50
lubricants are also required for all Series 149 engines where
ambient temperatures are above 95° F (35° C).
4. At ambient temperatures below freezing (32° F or 0° C), sufficient
starter cranking speed may not be achieved to start the engine with
SAE 40 grade oils. Where starting aids are not available or at very
cold temperatures (0° F to -25° F or -18° C to -32° C) even if
starting aids are available, the use of multigrade SAE 15W-40 or
monograde lubricant SAE 30 will improve startability. These lubricants
must possess a High Temperature – High Shear Rate Viscosity (measured
by ASTM D 4741 or equivalent) of 3.70 cP minimum. These oils must be
replaced with monograde SAE 40 lubricants as soon as ambient
conditions permit. Do not use multigrade or SAE 30 grade lubricants in
two-stroke cycle marine engines or Series 149 under any circumstances.

Send me the link to the 2007 revision when you get a chance. Save me
from searching their site! Thanks.

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
wrote:
>
> Ok I thought you were referring to my post. Here is the info I got
from DD.
> It is spec 7SE270 0703 date 2007
>
> 2.2 TWO-STROKE CYCLE ENGINES
>
> The lubricating oil requirements for On-Highway applications of
Series 53,
> Series 71, and Series 92 two-stroke engines are outlined in this
section.
>
> SAE Viscosity Grade 40
>
>
> On 08/10/2007, mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote:
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> > My comment was in response to the post that said:
> > > > Detroits use 40wt only!
> > > > Other Diesels are fine with 15-40 DIESEL RATED such as Rotella or
> > Delo.
> >
> > My point is not ALL Detroits should use 40wt only (only 2 cycles).
> > And according to Detroit, SOME should use 15-40 (the four cycles).
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Rob Robinson"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > My comment was in reference to Mr Rahn email with a signature of
> > 88PT 40. I
> > > do believe all 88PT 40 require straight 40wt oil.
> > >
> > > On 08/10/2007, mbulriss <mbulriss@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ummmm, oil..... always a controversial topic.
> > > >
> > > > Just so we don't sow incorrect information for new users, I
believe
> > > > what you meant to say was that Detroit Two-Stroke Diesels
(series 53,
> > > > 71, 92, 149) are recommended by DD official publications to use
> > > > monograde (40 or 50 weight) oils above freezing temps.
> > > >
> > > > Four Stroke Detroits are not recommended to use monograde oils
per the
> > > > Detroit Diesel publication on ENGINE REQUIREMENTS —
LUBRICATING OIL,
> > > > FUEL AND FILTERS:
> > > >
> > > > 2.1.5 MONOGRADE OILS
> > > > Monograde oils, irrespective of API service category, should
not be
> > > > used in on-road applications in any DDC 4-stroke engines or in
> > > > off-road applications in Series 40E, 50, 60, MBE 900 and
> > > > MBE 4000 engines.
> > > >
> > > > At least that's they way I read their literature.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > > San Antonio, TX - using Amsoil 15w-40 Heavy Duty Synthetic
Diesel and
> > > > Marine Oil and not using any or slinging any
> > > >
> > > > --- In
> > WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > ,
> > > > PM7088@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Detroits use 40wt only!
> > > > > Other Diesels are fine with 15-40 DIESEL RATED such as Rotella
> > or Delo.
> > > > >
> > > > > YMMV, check with manufactor's site.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pete
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > From: "Robert & Teri Rahn"
> > > > > It has been a couple years since I have changed the oil in
our bus
> > > > > since we havnt been using it much. I forgot what type and how
> > much oil
> > > > > to buy. Seems like it was 8 gallons of chevron delo. Wal
mart has a
> > > > > cheap fully synthetic oil, it is 12 dollars a gallon, does
it make
> > > > > sense to use this or is it not suitable for diesels? They
have 10 30
> > > > > and 5 30 I think. Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert Rahn
> > > > > Kalispell, Mt.
> > > > > 88 pt 40
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > 94 WLWB
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
>
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Messages In This Thread
oil type for 8v 92 - ciao70@... - 10-08-2007, 00:08
oil type for 8v 92 - ciao70@... - 10-08-2007, 02:23
oil type for 8v 92 - Robert & Teri Rahn - 10-08-2007, 03:22
oil type for 8v 92 - Don Bradner - 10-08-2007, 03:31
oil type for 8v 92 - brad barton - 10-08-2007, 03:44
oil type for 8v 92 - PM7088@... - 10-08-2007, 03:51
oil type for 8v 92 - mbulriss - 10-08-2007, 06:03
oil type for 8v 92 - Rob Robinson - 10-08-2007, 06:09
oil type for 8v 92 - PM7088@... - 10-08-2007, 06:10
oil type for 8v 92 - Rob Robinson - 10-08-2007, 06:30
oil type for 8v 92 - mbulriss - 10-08-2007, 06:46
oil type for 8v 92 - Rob Robinson - 10-08-2007, 07:04
oil type for 8v 92 - mbulriss - 10-08-2007, 07:10
oil type for 8v 92 - Rob Robinson - 10-08-2007, 07:15
oil type for 8v 92 - mbulriss - 10-08-2007 07:24
oil type for 8v 92 - Rob Robinson - 10-08-2007, 09:12



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