oil type for 8v 92

[Rob Robinson]

That which I quoted I retyped from their actual manual titled "Detroit
Diesel Lubricating Oil, Fuel and Filters" and designated 7SE270 0703. This
manual is dated 2007. I checked their site at http://www.detroitdiesel.com and
didn't see anything that might lead me to this manual. I was given this
manual and another titled "Coolant Selection" (7SE298 Sept 2002) while at
an FMCA rally. It is interesting that they have dropped the info on SAE 50W
oil. I'd like to know why. Maybe next rally I'll remember to ask them.

On 08/10/2007, mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Rob,
>
> Yeah, we're saying the same thing. Kind of funny that the DD link to
> their lubricating standards on their Motorcoach front page is to their
> older brochure from 2005 (7SE270 0510). In that one they list a
> table in Section 2.2 that basically says 40wt preferred and 50wt
> secondary.
>
> Then they go on to say (in part):
> 3. For continuous high temperature operation (over 200° F or 93° C
> coolant out), the use of an SAE grade 50 lubricant in DDC two-stroke
> cycle Series 53, 71 and 92 engines is required. SAE grade 50
> lubricants are also required for all Series 149 engines where
> ambient temperatures are above 95° F (35° C).
> 4. At ambient temperatures below freezing (32° F or 0° C), sufficient
> starter cranking speed may not be achieved to start the engine with
> SAE 40 grade oils. Where starting aids are not available or at very
> cold temperatures (0° F to -25° F or -18° C to -32° C) even if
> starting aids are available, the use of multigrade SAE 15W-40 or
> monograde lubricant SAE 30 will improve startability. These lubricants
> must possess a High Temperature – High Shear Rate Viscosity (measured
> by ASTM D 4741 or equivalent) of 3.70 cP minimum. These oils must be
> replaced with monograde SAE 40 lubricants as soon as ambient
> conditions permit. Do not use multigrade or SAE 30 grade lubricants in
> two-stroke cycle marine engines or Series 149 under any circumstances.
>
> Send me the link to the 2007 revision when you get a chance. Save me
> from searching their site! Thanks.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> "Rob Robinson"
> wrote:
> >
> > Ok I thought you were referring to my post. Here is the info I got
> from DD.
> > It is spec 7SE270 0703 date 2007
> >
> > 2.2 TWO-STROKE CYCLE ENGINES
> >
> > The lubricating oil requirements for On-Highway applications of
> Series 53,
> > Series 71, and Series 92 two-stroke engines are outlined in this
> section.
> >
> > SAE Viscosity Grade 40
> >
> >
> > On 08/10/2007, mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Rob,
> > >
> > > My comment was in response to the post that said:
> > > > > Detroits use 40wt only!
> > > > > Other Diesels are fine with 15-40 DIESEL RATED such as Rotella or
> > > Delo.
> > >
> > > My point is not ALL Detroits should use 40wt only (only 2 cycles).
> > > And according to Detroit, SOME should use 15-40 (the four cycles).
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> > > --- In
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
,
>
> > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My comment was in reference to Mr Rahn email with a signature of
> > > 88PT 40. I
> > > > do believe all 88PT 40 require straight 40wt oil.
> > > >
> > > > On 08/10/2007, mbulriss <mbulriss@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ummmm, oil..... always a controversial topic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just so we don't sow incorrect information for new users, I
> believe
> > > > > what you meant to say was that Detroit Two-Stroke Diesels
> (series 53,
> > > > > 71, 92, 149) are recommended by DD official publications to use
> > > > > monograde (40 or 50 weight) oils above freezing temps.
> > > > >
> > > > > Four Stroke Detroits are not recommended to use monograde oils
> per the
> > > > > Detroit Diesel publication on ENGINE REQUIREMENTS —
> LUBRICATING OIL,
> > > > > FUEL AND FILTERS:
> > > > >
> > > > > 2.1.5 MONOGRADE OILS
> > > > > Monograde oils, irrespective of API service category, should
> not be
> > > > > used in on-road applications in any DDC 4-stroke engines or in
> > > > > off-road applications in Series 40E, 50, 60, MBE 900 and
> > > > > MBE 4000 engines.
> > > > >
> > > > > At least that's they way I read their literature.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > > > San Antonio, TX - using Amsoil 15w-40 Heavy Duty Synthetic
> Diesel and
> > > > > Marine Oil and not using any or slinging any
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In
> > > WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

> > > ,
> > > > > PM7088@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Detroits use 40wt only!
> > > > > > Other Diesels are fine with 15-40 DIESEL RATED such as Rotella
> > > or Delo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > YMMV, check with manufactor's site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pete
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > > From: "Robert & Teri Rahn"
> > > > > > It has been a couple years since I have changed the oil in
> our bus
> > > > > > since we havnt been using it much. I forgot what type and how
> > > much oil
> > > > > > to buy. Seems like it was 8 gallons of chevron delo. Wal
> mart has a
> > > > > > cheap fully synthetic oil, it is 12 dollars a gallon, does
> it make
> > > > > > sense to use this or is it not suitable for diesels? They
> have 10 30
> > > > > > and 5 30 I think. Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Robert Rahn
> > > > > > Kalispell, Mt.
> > > > > > 88 pt 40
> > > > > >
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> > > > --
> > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > 94 WLWB
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> > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > 94 WLWB
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--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


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