Water pressure regulator/tank fill valve mystery solved

[mariopatti1]

Hi All
I had a problem filling the water.I fulltime and needed water so I
disconnected the overfill above the tank and filled the water with a
hose. Did not make any permanent modification .Started to look for a
fix.Was advised to clean and lubricate the pressure regulator fill
valve sounded difficult turned out to be very easy ( thanks Ralph )
Nothing modifed still original and works great.

Mario 1985FC35 in MV MA. Coach in SoCal

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> Dick, Farmers across the country had a crisis when nylon string
> replaced bailing wire in hay packaging. I found a professional
> bailing wire device at Quartsite 07 and returned this year to buy
it
> because my 07 statement "I can make one of these" never put metal
to
> mill. I was disapointed when the vender didnot show up this year.
> Forum member, Dick Hayden found one of the tools earlier this
month
> and sent it to me in the mail. This is a got to have tool for
> everyone. I will find a web site or take pics and post soon. A
big
> thank to DickH for my much loved ClampTool
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Gideon"
> wrote:
> >
> > Greg: All good points; the sporland is working just fine; my
> guess
> > is that the PO installed the bypass hose setup simply because
the
> > check valve within the external water fill/regulator needed a
good
> > cleaning...I chose to replace the water fill/regulator because
of
> my
> > lack of knowledge for disassembly for service. Just adding my 2
> > cents regarding "quick fixes" to solve a problem and thereby
> possibly
> > introducing a new problem or inconvenience. Kinda like some of
> those
> > temporary fences I used to build on our farm years ago...many of
> them
> > are still being used!
> >
> > Dick Gideon
> > Freedom Bird
> > 1989 35FC
> > Rolla, MO
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The mystery is why was the garden hose installed?
> > >
> > > The potable water tank fill is an appliance on the
> citywaterhookup
> > > line. like an icemaker or sink. On 91 and newer birds the
> sporlan
> > > is a diaphram valve like a automatic lawn sprinkler valve. the
> > valve
> > > is closed passivly then opened when the valve is energized by
> the
> > > switch. the problem with the notion that it is closed all the
> time
> > > is that when there is no pressure pushing into the input side
of
> > the
> > > sporlan tankfill valve, the diaphram that keeps the valve
> closed
> > > floats open. since ther is no pressure, water doesnt pass but
> air
> > > gets in the valve.
> > >
> > > when the plumbing system in the bus is not hooked to city
water
> > and
> > > the automatic 12 volt pump is turned off, some one is sure to
> open
> > a
> > > sink valve and depressurize the plumbing lines which will
float
> the
> > > valve open. when this happens and the bus sits for a month or
> two,
> > > scum builds up on the rubber and the valve will not shut
closed.
> if
> > > the valve does not shut closed, hooking up to city water the
> > potable
> > > tank will overfill. with the valve failed open, running on the
> > > 12volt pump you will keep removing water from the tank and
> refill
> > > the tank with that water so removed.
> > >
> > > Fulltimers have frequent or constant pressure up against the
> valve
> > > thus have not this problem but us monthly or bimonthly users
> > > welcome your "hose through the wall upgrade"
> > >
> > > One caution I see with filling the potable tank too fast via a
> non
> > > Bird-engeneered design is if you fill it faster than the air
or
> > over
> > > fill pipe can exhaust the air or water you build pressure in
> > > the 'not designed to be pressurized', plastic tank. This may
> > cause
> > > the potable tank to split. talk about wetting the bed!
> > >
> > > GregoryO'Connor
> > > 94ptRomolandCa
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Gideon"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On our recent visit with Ralph and Charolette in our 89FC35,
> > Ralph
> > > and
> > > > I performed the obligatory 'walk around' of our coach. I
> opened
> > > the
> > > > utility hookup door, (street side rear) and Ralph
immediately
> > > spotted
> > > > the non standard piece of garden hose added by a PO.
Ralph's
> > > comment
> > > > was "get rid of that" as I tried to explain I was not the
> guilty
> > > party
> > > > responsible for this re-engineered method for filling the
pure
> > > water
> > > > tank via a 1/2" hose protruding through a 1" hole bored
> through
> > > the
> > > > backside steel bulkhead of the utility compartment.
> > > >
> > > > Now settled down after our South Texas travels, I'm doing
> > > preventive
> > > > maintenance on the bird, 3208 & ZF service, AD4 dyer
rebuild,
> new
> > > D2
> > > > air governor.
> > > >
> > > > We've had this 35FC 18 months now and that dangling piece of
> fill
> > > hose
> > > > has bugged us long enough...previous owner told me that's
the
> > only
> > > way
> > > > to fill the fresh water tank. Turns out, the first night we
> > spent
> > > in
> > > > the coach when bringing it home from GA, the regulator /fill
> > valve
> > > > leaked like a sieve (through the 2 small holes where you
> insert
> > > snap
> > > > ring pliers for service) and the first repair I made to the
> coach
> > > 18
> > > > mos ago was replacing that regulator assembly. This fixed
the
> > > leak.
> > > >
> > > > Previous owner related he did not ever hook to 'city water'
> but
> > in
> > > lieu
> > > > always filled the tank through this stupid hose and like a
> dummy
> > > I've
> > > > continued to use the "hose thru the wall" instead of filling
> by
> > > > flipping the fill switch to energize the sporlan valve.
Hose
> is
> > > gone
> > > > now and I plugged the hole with a chrome plug purchased at
> Lowe's.
> > > >
> > > > My lesson here is simple; try to keep the original systems
> fully
> > > > operational when practical! This case of the water hose
added
> to
> > > > bypass the factory regulator could have been avoided by
merely
> > > doing
> > > > the preventive maintenance on the regulator and the city
water
> > > function
> > > > as well as the electric fill function could have remained
> intact.
> > > >
> > > > Ralph, thanks for helping us keep the Blue Bird systems
> working;
> > > also
> > > > thanks to all who contribute to the forum.
> > > >
> > > > Dick Gideon
> > > > Freedom Bird
> > > > 1989 35FC
> > > > Rolla, MO
> > > >
> > >
> >
>