Used RV Dealers new tacticks

[Dorn Hetzel]

When I bought mine I just drove out to see it with no deposit or anything.

If it had sold before I got there I would have felt bad, but nowhere near as bad as I would feel letting a dishonest seller keep my deposit money.


I can tolerate my own suffering as long as someone else isn't benefiting from it

Dorn Hetzel
77FC35
Hogansville, GA

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:27 AM, bubblerboy64 <"jehdds@hotmail.com"> wrote:

Chris, There is no question the ad is misrepresenting the condition

of the coach. You might complain to eBay and see if that gets you

some place. You must admit however that you didn't do your home work

on this. We all start someplace and most often learn the hard way.

Most of us would have similar stories to tell. Perhaps not on a

vehicle but few of us mortals don't get taken a time or two. I would

suggest you do what you can within reason to get your deposit back

and then just write it off as the cost of education. By the way the

tactics are not new. "Horse trading" has been in practice for

hundreds of years. Don't let it get you down. You can still come

out the winner in the end on this. I don't know how much money you

are out but I bet the vast majority of us have wasted or lost similar

funds on faulty repairs of similar. At least its not sitting in your

drive with you having to look at it everyday as a reminder. When you

get over this you may look back and consider yourself lucky that it

wasn't in just a little better shape and you would have closed the

deal only to be in MUCH worse off then you are now.



John Heckman

central Pa

1973 FC

>

> Befor I called the dealer "Big Bob" This is not thier name but

untill

> they decide not to give me my deposit back I will not name them.

>

> On ebay the used RV dealer sells used RVs that they can not if the

> person sees/smells/inspects.

>

>

> ****************************Reality********************************

> RV hasn't Had much of anything repaired in atleast 15 years.

> Some repairs=Total rehab

> After the dealer required a deposit he thought he had me. I took

the

> Grayhound 400 miles to see the BB. I had 4 requirements.

> 1. It had to have good tire ruber so I could make it home safely

and

> hopefully go on a couple trips.

> - Tires have not been replaced in many years. Rims were not only

> rusting but spalding. The metal was coming off in layers.

> 2. A minimal amout of mold was to be detected.

> - The porouse wood of an RV holds mold once there is a leak.

Every

> window had no seal whatsoever. The tracks for the window were

filled

> with moldy frozen mush and the snow from that day was sitting in

the

> RV near each window. Dealer pretended to check the locks on the

> windows. That was funny. This has been leaking for years and years.

I

> would fear the frame may even be damaged. Maybe not.

> 3. General damage had to be at a minimal.

> - The Generator did not look like the picture. It looked like a

> dead cat in a rusty hole. The back window of the buss was broken

and

> the dealer said he thought that was the film on the window. The

back

> of the BB with broken glued together taillights, chrome coming off

> the bumper in a large sheet, has been used to stop this BB many

> times. The dealer made sure not to put this in the picture.

>

> After I said I did not want it because it was way to much for me to

> handle he said 3 things.

> "By the time we get them they are trash heaps" and "we put the ones

> we can not sell on the internet" and We will only refund you the

> difference of the deposit and what we end up selling it for.

> Translated=You will not see a dime because I dought we can sell it

> now that Ebay did not even work for this RV.

>

> If you have lots of time and atleast 23k This may be a good buy at

$1-

> 2k. The engine seamed to run well. I didn't dare to look in on

it. :-)

>

> ADD on Ebay:

> 1975 Bluebird Bluebird Print Version

>

> Title: Bluebird RV Motorhome Bus Conversion Diesel No

Reserve

>

> Mileage: 87,155 miles

> Location: ROCKFORD IL

>

> Features

> Type: Motorized class A Slide outs: -- Water capacity: 21-30

gallons

>

> Length: 35 feet Sleeping capacity: 4 Air conditioners: 2

> Fuel type: Diesel Awnings: 1 Leveling jacks included: No

> Description (revised)

> Vehicle Description

> You Are Bidding On The Ultimate RV Conversion!

> This 1975 BlueBird Was Converted A Little Under 15 Years Ago!

> This RV/Bus Contains The Following Luxury Amenities:

>

> Fridge

> Microwave

> Oven

> 3 Burner Range

> Double Bowl Stainless Sink

> Two Front Sofas

> Booth Dinette

> Rear Master / Party Lounger Including A Table With (8) Beer Holders

> Furnace

> (2) Air Conditioners

> Rear Vision Monitor

> 3208 Caterpiller Diesel

> Onan Generator

> Full Bathroom Including Shower/ Sink / Toilet Paper

> Decent Tires

> This Gentleman Was An Avid Notre Dame Football Fan. He & 4 Of His

> Buddies Converted This Machine While Consuming (80) Cases Of Beer!

> THAT'S 1,920 12oz BEERS!!!!!!!!!! Runs Good Drives Good, May Need

> Some Repairs. This Unit Is Sold As Is As Shown. Does Not Come

With

> Any Kind Of Warranty.

>

> Good Luck And Happy Bidding !!!!

> No Reserve!!

>