We Were Warned in 1998
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05-12-2008, 23:24
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We Were Warned in 1998
Leroy,
Interesting find. Executive summary premise - "The federal government provides the oil industry with numerous tax breaks designed to ensure that domestic companies can compete with international producers and that gasoline remains cheap for American consumers." When we add in the stated externalities ⢠TAX SUBSIDIES ⢠PROGRAM SUBSIDIES ⢠PROTECTION SUBSIDIES ⢠OTHER EXTERNAL COSTS real cost "results in a per gallon price of $5.60 to $15.14." This was in 1998. What do these numbers look like today today? What has changed? Is it only the per-barrel cost? Are the externalities relatively the same? What affect does the refining capacity have on this? Has that factor kept up with our demand? The only factor I hear about improving in this realm are oil company profits. How do these compare with 1998 on a percentage basis? If this is a profit grab, they will eventually choke themselves off. Or is it simply supply and demand? Do they know how far they can push us? Are they smugly smirking as those digital pumps encrypt sales figures and move the real time information by satellite to the counting houses in Dubai? (Paranoid thought?) Are we simply less of a factor on the global scale than we once were? When you look most world maps produced in this country, the United States is usually in the center and Asia is divided to either side. When you look a map that has Asia whole, the US does not look so big. To me, this is a very powerful and telling image. The executive summary concludes with - "Drivers faced with the cost of their gasoline usage up front may have a more difficult time ignoring the harmful effects that their addiction to automobiles and the internal combustion engine have on national security, the environment, their health, and their quality of life." In the long run is this really good for us? Will we figure out an affordable way to run our Birds? I hope I live long enough hydrogen? United technologies and others are working on it. http://www.utc.com/curious/ In the mean time --- (to the tune of Dire Straits "Money for Nothin") I WANT MY WNADERLODGE, I WANT MY WANDERLODGE, I WANT MY WANDERLODGE BTW I too was a Hippie once upon a time, I can't say it was less fun. lol Bill --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert > > I agree. I was a Hippie once upon a time. Sometimes I think that was more fun. lol > > The post was not intended to be about alternative energy sources, it was intended to be about oil price spikes and the damage that can occur to the economy and the pain it can cause to our BB life style. The report is dead on. I don't know about you but I have a hard time justifying $1500 to fill'er up and joy ride. I was once buff and good looking, today I am fat and old. Times change. As well, I would not care to have those wind mill electric generators in Banning Pass behind my house. No one wants those in their back yard. Besides, if there were any trees in that part of CA they would not be there either. That is part of the problem. I lived there for 25 years, I even remember Jojoba(sp?) oil. lol > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > Dahlonega, GA > Royale Conversion > > Jack & Donna Smith lot of this was brought out a lot earlier. In the 60s & > 70s, the Hippie era, "The Whole Earth Catalouge" detailed how to burn > "deep fry oil" in a diesel, and also a lot of other stuff on > alternative fuels and other energy sources. Several articles detailed > on how to convert a car alternator, and generator, (remember('Flashing > the Field'?) to windmill power. > But, why bother? After all Gas was 35¢ a Gal, and diesel a bit less! > Jack Smith > 1973FC31 > SoCal. > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy A. Eckert" > > > > > I found this report quite a while back written by folks much more > > intelligent than I. With all the hallabaloos about fuel prices I find > > this quite interesting. Ethanol and Bio fuel will not fix this problem > > anytime soon. It was written and published in 1998 so I presume it was > > lost in the hanging chads of the Florida election and transfer of > > power. It is not necessary to read the whole report as I did, just > > read page 31. It says it all about what is happening today. > > I hope Yahoo does not split this url because I cannot edit this post. > > > > http://www.icta.org/doc/Real%20Price%20o...soline.pdf > > > > Leroy Eckert > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > > Dahlonega, GA > > > |
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We Were Warned in 1998 - Leroy A. Eckert - 05-12-2008, 15:13
We Were Warned in 1998 - Jack & Donna Smith - 05-12-2008, 15:36
We Were Warned in 1998 - Leroy Eckert - 05-12-2008, 16:02
We Were Warned in 1998 - erniecarpet@... - 05-12-2008, 20:24
We Were Warned in 1998 - Bill Garamella - 05-12-2008 23:24
We Were Warned in 1998 - Ryan Wright - 05-13-2008, 06:13
We Were Warned in 1998 - Dorn Hetzel - 05-13-2008, 06:22
We Were Warned in 1998 - brad barton - 05-13-2008, 10:02
We Were Warned in 1998 - Al - 05-13-2008, 10:55
We Were Warned in 1998 - Dorn Hetzel - 05-13-2008, 10:56
We Were Warned in 1998 - Dorn Hetzel - 05-13-2008, 10:59
We Were Warned in 1998 - brad barton - 05-13-2008, 11:01
We Were Warned in 1998 - Mike Hohnstein - 05-13-2008, 11:23
We Were Warned in 1998 - Pete Masterson - 05-13-2008, 12:27
We Were Warned in 1998 - Dorn Hetzel - 05-13-2008, 12:34
We Were Warned in 1998 - Don Bradner - 05-13-2008, 13:29
We Were Warned in 1998 - Ryan Wright - 05-14-2008, 17:24
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