Sad Safety Reminder

[Jon]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, David Brady
wrote:
>
> This may not be true for all Wanderlodges, (I think it is), but
> on my LXi the shocks will stop the drooping axles before the
> air bags, thereby eliminating load on the air bags. I called Koni
> and Justin assured me that each shock can handle 8500 lb of
> dead load (tension) in this static configuration; consequently,
> there's no risk of damaging a shock.
>
> David Brady
> '02 LXi, NC
>
> bumpersbird wrote:
> >
> > Pete,
> >
> > I've seen some shops use the technique of using blocks under the
> > jacks to get the wheels off the ground and to get the coach in the
> > air. I may be wrong but I think their is an issue of the air bags
> > being strained beyond thier extension limits.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong I've had the wheels off the ground via the
jacks
> > several times, but I don't like to do it and I think it could
easily
> > damage the coach.
> >
> > I would suggest a pit or a lift for the safest way for working
under
> > anything.
> >
> > Sometimes we take safty for granted, we think we know what what
were
> > doing, most of us have spent a lot of time working on our coaches
and
> > we know them intimatly. She can and will bite, if you don't mind
her.
> > You just can't be too careful.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42
> > Fayetteville TN
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , Pete Masterson
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ryan,
> > >
> > > That is the precise recipe for a disaster. You need to add:
> > > 5. Wheels chocked front and back (with adequate chocks!) Two
axles
> > > preferred.
> > > 6. Jack stands, of suitable weight rating, set under the frame
> > > members to hold the bus should it come down.
> > >
> > > I note that on later models, lowering the jacks causes the
> > suspension
> > > to dump automatically. The leveling jacks (on my coach) state
> > right
> > > on the control panel, "Not to be used for working under the
coach."
> > >
> > > The only true safety from being crushed is for something that
can
> > not
> > > collapse should be placed between the frame and the ground. The
> > air
> > > bags can collapse without warning if (for example) you open an
air-
> > > line on purpose or by accident. The leveling jacks may have a
> > failure
> > > (or you may damage a hydraulic line) while you're working under
> > the
> > > coach.
> > >
> > > I note during my recent visit to CCW that the technicians were
> > clever
> > > in their use of the leveling jacks to raise the coach for
working
> > > under it (at one point, putting blocks under the jacks to raise
> > the
> > > coach higher then normal). However, they also used very heavy
duty
> > > jack stands (looked like they could hold 50 tons) to keep the
> > coach
> > > from unexpectedly coming down.
> > >
> > > Pete Masterson
> > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > El Sobrante CA
> > > aeonix1@
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 9, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Ryan Wright wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 4:36 PM, mbulriss <mbulriss@> wrote:
> > > >> Our understanding is that Jim's passing was due to his bus
> > falling
> > > >> on him.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know how it happened? What was he doing, what went
> > wrong?
> > > >
> > > > I crawl under my bus all the time under these circumstances:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Parked on a flat, level surface.
> > > > 2. Parking brake set.
> > > > 3. Air bags inflated.
> > > > 4. Leveling jacks down as a safety against airbag failure.
> > > >
> > > > I've never had cause to jack the bus up beyond normal airbag
> > operating
> > > > height. I'm small enough I can work around it without lifting
it.
> > I
> > > > can't see the airbags and the jacks failing at the same time.
I'd
> > > > imagine most of the danger here is when you've actually lifted
> > one or
> > > > more tires off the ground, yes?



This might sound dumb but what about us guys out here that don't have
air bags or jacks to level out the coach, can our coach bit us also?
I know when I do go under my coach I make sure the brakes are on and
something in front or back of the tires. But the only way my coach
could fall down and pin me under would haft to be a blown out tire.
Our old buses you haft to bleed the excess moisture out of the air
tanks every so often and so we do haft to go underneath.
> > > >
> > >
> >
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