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06-16-2008, 01:12
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Brush gobbler
Ryan,
From what I can see of my slip ring it looks worn just like yours. I read somewhere that low/no brush spring tension causes that. My spec number is 135013, three after yours. Please let me know the correct part number for your slip ring. I'm thinking about buying one to have on hand, so I'll have two to choose from and be able to finish the job. Then send the one I don't use back. The other part they sent you "thin metal strap". I'm not sure if it's the same thing, but when I installed new brushes, there was a metal shim on the brush holder mount. I assume to adjust the brushes to line up with the slip rings. Thanks again for your help. Tom Sorrentino 1987 PT38 Bedford Hills, NY --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright" > > Tom, > > They sent me the same exact part # you have. > > Here's a picture of my old slip ring: http://www.ryanwright.com/tmp/slipring.jpg > > Just look at the wear on that son of a gun! No wonder it was eating > through brushes. You can also clearly see the inside of the slip ring. > Note, no notch. Instead there are those very tiny splines. The shaft > on my generator has corresponding splines. My Kohler is model 12.5cc, > spec 135010. > > They also sent me a "Ring, tolerance", part # 238211. I didn't order > it. It's a thin metal strap looking thing. Not sure if they assumed I > would need it or not, but I've no idea where it would go, as I don't > have anything like this on my generator. I guess I'll find out Monday > when I talk to them. > > -Ryan > > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 3:56 AM, thomas_sorrentino > > > Ryan, > > > > Thanks for the update. Excellent information. I'm all geared up to do > > this at Tom Warners rally next weekend. You've got me wondering about > > having the correct slip rings though. The new one I have sounds just > > like the one they had sent you (has a large key notch). On the box > > it's part number 359447, description ring collector. Is it possible > > to post any photo's of what you got and what your suppose to have? My > > private e-mail is tomsorrentino at hotmail dot com. > > Also I'm really curious to see if your old slip ring is worn like > > mine? > > Thanks again. > > > > Tom Sorrentino > > 1987 PT38 > > Bedford Hills, NY > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright" > > > >> > >> Update: Looks like they sent me the wrong slip rings. My shaft & > > slip > >> rings have a bunch of tiny splines that hold it in place. The slip > >> ring set they shipped me has a large key-notch in it. Bummer - I'll > >> have to call them Monday morning and get this straightened out. > >> > >> So far, though, folks, this looks to be a relatively easy repair > >> without taking the generator out. You just run the generator all the > >> way out on it's slide, then climb under there. I'm actually able to > >> sit up once I'm in there, so my head & upper body is in the cavity > >> where the generator sits when closed. Much more comfortable to work > > in > >> a sitting position vs. laying on my back. Take the back "vent" thing > >> off, remove the brushes, relays (I think that's what those two > > little > >> silver things are), voltage regulator and all other wires. Mark them > >> and/or take pictures so you know what goes where (I'll provide my > > own > >> pictures and a better write-up when I'm done). Remove all of the > > bolts > >> holding the rear "cap" onto the generator and remove that cap. > >> > >> Now you have access. De-solder the two wires on the old slip rings > > and > >> carefully move them out of the way. Use a gear puller to remove the > >> bearing and slip rings. This is where I'm at. Then, just re- assemble > >> with new parts. No need to pull the generator out of the coach and > >> deal with fuel and coolant lines, oil, hydraulic lines and all that > >> entails. > >> > >> Time spent: Probably 4 hours worth of actual work for me thus far, > >> much of it spent trying to get that darn cap off the back of the > >> generator. Finally took a long stick and tapped it out from the > > front > >> (thanks Ralph for the advice). Now that I know what I'm doing, I > > think > >> I could get to this point in half the time. In fact, with all of the > >> (right!) parts on hand, I'm guessing I could do the entire job in 4 > > to > >> 6 hours start to finish next time. That assumes there are no gotchas > >> when I start putting it back together, but I can't see any from > > here. > >> > >> If you've ever pulled the transmission out of a car, just dig in and > >> do this. This job is a piece of cake by comparison. Well worth doing > >> yourself - I've got a measly $100 into the parts. Very happy I > > didn't > >> spring for the 4 hour round trip drive and the $1600+ in labor to > > get > >> it done by the pros. > >> > >> This is a simplistic explanation but it's a good overview for those > > of > >> you itching to tackle this. As I said, I'll have lots of pictures > > and > >> a more detailed write-up of the procedure available on my web site > >> once I'm done. I'll post a link at that time. > >> > >> -Ryan > >> '86 PT-40 8V92, Yanmar powered Kohler 12.5kw genset > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Ryan Wright > > wrote: > >> > Hi Tom, > >> > > >> > My parts just arrived Friday night. I spent several hours under > > the > >> > coach this morning and am heading back down there in a little bit. > >> > Yes, this can absolutely be done without removing the generator. > > It's > >> > not all that difficult, really. I'll have pictures and such ready > > here > >> > in another week or two. Should have mine finished up by tomorrow > > if I > >> > don't run into any problems. > >> > > >> > -Ryan > >> > > >> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:10 PM, thomas_sorrentino > >> > > >> >> Ryan, > >> >> > >> >> Any progress on this yet? Tips? Shortcuts? Does it seem like it > > can > >> >> be done without removing the generator? I'm getting ready to do > > mine > >> >> soon. > >> >> > >> >> Tom Sorrentino > >> >> 1987 PT38 > >> >> Bedford Hills, NY > >> > > >> > > > > > |
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