WHY DON'T WE HAVE AUTO GAS AT GAS STATIONS HERE LIKE THEY DO IN AUSTRALIA???

[Henry Jay Hannigan]

DON:
Excellent comments!
Before I go into depression about even opening this subject matter,
let me make one more comment.
From your excellent discovery, it appears that LPG is approximately
ONE DOLLAR PER GALLON HIGHER IN THE USA THAN IN AUSTRALIA and it
appears that TAXES covers that difference.
Taxes are in the domain of WASHINGTON, so I better leave it there
without commenting further. Thank you all for your comments. I am
reordering my ZOLOFT and PROZAC Monday.
Regards,
Hank
90SP36




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
wrote:
>
> Hank, you have blinders on based on your Australian experience.
Even where LPG is abundant, as it is in Australia, it is not
inherently much cheaper than other petrol forms. It is only priced
the way you see it because of government subsidy. Until 2011,
Australian Autogas remains Excise tax-free, and the tax will only be
A12.5 cents phased in over 5 years from 2011. Petrol has an excise
tax over A38 cents. Subsidies/rebates from the government on the
purchase of Autogas vehicles is another part of the equation.
>
> Look at the Flying J pages to get a sense of the price comparison
of Gas vs Propane in the US:
http://www.flyingj.com/fuel/gasoline_CF.cfm?state=US
>
> Autogas is not pure propane, but rather a propane/butane mixture,
but the pricing is comparable. If any significant percentage of
America's cars were converted to autogas, the resultant demand on LPG
against supplies would rapidly cause a price displacement that would
offset any advantage. Of course that assumes they don't just shift
the burden to the taxpayer.
>
> When you look at articles on Autogas around the world, suggestions
that countries proceed as Australia has always talk about smaller
countries, primarily European, and you never see ANY that suggest it
would be a wise or economical move for the US.
>
> Incidentally, as far as I can tell it appears that, with
the .62/1.73 numbers, you have chosen to list the cheapest Autogas
price you can find against the highest petrol price. Perhaps those
were at the same location, perhaps not, but the difference appears
greater than most general Australian price numbers. See, for example,
http://www.fuelwatch.wa.gov.au/index.cfm...date=Today
>
> On 6/22/2008 at 4:34 PM Henry Jay Hannigan wrote:
>
> >GOOD MORNING ALL!!! WOW!! It is fun starting a new
> >subject..sure gets the "experts" out! Gee BRUCE, I have been
> >running my Toyota Corrolla on Australian "autogas for eight(8)
years
> >and my Mitsubishi Campervan on Australian "autogas" for two (2)
years
> >and now I find out that it is NOT "suitable."
> >
> >Let's see..I pay 62 cents a litre for "autogas" and $1.73 per
litre
> >for petrol(American gasoline) and miles per gallon differences
> >between "autogas" and petrol and power difference are nearly
> >negligible to me and over a million Australians
utilizing "autogas."
> >
> >As gasoline goes higher, perhaps WE Americans should start
> >considering asking the BIG guys about we little guys saving MONEY
by
> >switching to "autogas." Concerning "INSTALLATION" cost...I have
not
> >heard the BANKS complain about putting ATM's everywhere.The
American
> >way is just to pass the costs to us divided by 200 million.
> >
> >I subscribe to the TEN ways WE CAN do something instead of TEN
> >reasons why WE can't do something.
> > NO offense intended. LOL. You all keep them cards and letters
> >commin!
> >Hank
> >90SP36
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Propane is not a suitable fuel for automobiles. At least not in
> >Canada
> >> or the USA. Years ago Cnada got into this propne conversion
thing
> >in a
> >> big way. Cash incentives to switch over as well as tax breaks.
WE
> >> converted 3 one ton delivery trucks and my MH. Never again. The
MH
> >> fried the heads in my 440. The delivery trucks got horrible fuel
> >> mileage. In 6 years the tanks were so rusty they had to be
> >replaced. In
> >> the winter they were hard to start. Not many shops were versed
in
> >the
> >> technology. Try buying propane after dark in N.D. To make it
even
> >worse
> >> propane is just as expensive as road fuel. Every taxi in Western
> >Canada
> >> ran on propane. I dont think any use this fuel today.
> >>
> >> Bruce
> >> 1988FC35
> >>
> >
> >
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