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WHY DON'T WE HAVE AUTO GAS AT GAS STATIONS HERE LIKE THEY DO IN AUSTRALIA???
06-22-2008, 12:34
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WHY DON'T WE HAVE AUTO GAS AT GAS STATIONS HERE LIKE THEY DO IN AUSTRALIA???

Leroy,



It's cause bio fuels "complete the carbon cycle". To a degree anyway.

The idea is that thru photosynthesis, a plant converts sunlight and
carbon

dioxide into complex carbohydrates which we then convert into bio fuels.

Completing the carbon cycle means that the CO2 released into the
atmosphere

when we burn the bio-fuel is then removed from the atmosphere thru

photosynthesis. Compare this to burning dino fuels, where the CO2
released

is extracted from the ground and adds to "new" CO2 to the atmosphere.

This is one of the ways that scientists no that humans are responsible
for

global warming. We look at the age of the carbon in the atmosphere's
CO2.

What we're finding is that an ever larger percentage of the carbon
isotopes in

the atmosphere is the same carbon isotope found in dino fuels; i.e,
humans put

it there thru burning dino fuels.



David Brady

'02 LXi, NC



Leroy Eckert wrote:



Alright Pete, it has been 40 years since I did my college
chemistry classes and I have not done a damn thing with it since.

I have a question; don't mean to get into a chemistry class on the
forum; just interested in something.

If finished bio-diesel has a published average formula of C19H36O2 and
average common diesel has a formula of C12H23 how is bio-diesel better
for the air we breath? Does something happen in the combustion
chamber?? Are the farmers stroking me?? CH4 is clean so to speak.



Leroy Eckert

1990 WB-40 Royale

Dahlonega, GA

Smoke N Mirrors



--- On Sat, 6/21/08, Pete Masterson com>
wrote:

From:
Pete Masterson com>

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: WHY DON'T WE HAVE AUTO GAS AT GAS
STATIONS HERE LIKE THEY DO IN AUSTRALIA???

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 4:59 PM





Yes, I was confused by the "autogas" thing. I thought it
was CNG. However most of the points still apply, although LPG is
slightly heavier per gallon.


Natural gas is primarily methane (CH4) (with small
amounts of a panoply of more complex gases -- butane, propane, etc.)
while LPG is a mixture of various gases with the major component being
either (or both) butane (C4H10) or/and propane (C3H8). Natural gas,
being primarily methane, is considered a very clean fossil fuel due to
the small carbon content (1 atom for every 4 hydrogen) as it produces
the least CO2 per unit of weight of any in this class of fossil fuel.


Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"






On Jun 21, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Steve Pfiffner wrote:


There seems to be some confusion, CNG (compressed
natural gas) and LPG
(evidently called Autogas in
Australia and butane/propane in the US) are not really the
same thing.

Steve
Wannabee





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