COACH BATTERIES
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08-09-2008, 04:51
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COACH BATTERIES
GPS Gary:
Regarding your article; You stated the following; "The extra connections in a six volt system negatively impact reliability and efficiency," On my two six volt Trojan T-105's, I have a "00" wire six inches long connecting the negative and positive to make it 12 volts. Please explain the "negative reliability and efficiency impact" of this "extra connection." Regards, Hank 90SP36 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "hippieforever3" wrote: > > OK, first my bonafides. > > I have an electrical engineering degree and worked in quality and > reliability in electronics over 30 years. While I'm not the world's > foremost expert in wet storage batteries. I have had some experience > with the quality and reliability of "backup" electrical sources. > > ALL known types of rechargeable electrical storage devices (batteries > included) have "memory". The ability for the battery to absorb, store > and discharge energy is related to how much energy was stored and > discharged in recent cycles. It's very much like flexibility in > humans, if you don't slightly over stress your joints occasionally > over time you lose flexibility. You can reduce failure and extend > useful life by totally (over) depleting the battery bank once a month > or more. A perfect way to do this in an RV type application is to run > the air-conditioner until the batteries were clearly struggling then > turm on incandescent lights and leave them on for 6-12 hour AFTER you > can't see the filament glowing. Switch off all loads and use a good > REGULATED low charge rate charger, not the alternator and regulator. > Actually a trickle charger would be perfect. > > Now this is not a very practical routine but the closer you could > come to the deep, deep discharge and slow full, full charge the > longer your batteries would last. > > In the most basic lead storage battery, the more lead the more > overall storage capacity so in a crude sense the heavier the battery > the more ampere-hours, unless the weight is in the case not the lead. > While shear lead volume determines capacity from the standpoint of > physics, performance is determined by configuration. The thinner the > lead plates are the faster they will charge or discharge (cranking > power). The thinner the plates are the more the battery might be > prone to failure from environmental factors like temperature and > vibration. Here is the dilemma preventing you from picking the best > battery using a scale. > > One really good indicator of battery quality is the case and > terminals. Is the case a heavy thick walled rubber compound or is it > a nice thin walled high performance polymer? At the factory the cost > differential is at most $2. What they are charging retail is some > indicator of value. If you can see the plate structure, what does the > workmanship look like? Check the materials of the terminals and the > seals. On almost all batteries the top is a separate piece. Check the > joint construction and workmanship. ANY inconsistency or voids is a > sign of lower quality craftsmanship. Check a couple of different > sizes and cases from the same manufacturer. > > There is absolutely no inherent reason why 6 volt golf cart batteries > should be more capable of better handling numerous charge and > discharge cycles than 12 volt batteries although the design of any > battery will impact that and it may be a valid argument that > batteries specifically designed for full charge / discharge > applications will last longer. There are however 12 volt batteries > designed for these same cycles and the extra connections in a 6 volt > system negatively impact reliability and efficiency. > > As a general rule you should get better performance and life from > sealed batteries. Typically they will be newer designs, often made on > more modern production lines and there is far less chance that the > electrolyte will become (even slightly) contaminated or non- optimal. > > Price vs. performance vs. reliability. > Two $75 55ah 12 volt batteries will be more reliable than one $150 > 100ah battery but take up twice the space. You can limp in on one of > the $75 cheapies and with proper care ONE of them will last longer > than the $150 battery. Will four $37.50 six volt batteries outperform > either of the other options ... Nope, if one of those four fail, > you're walking. > > If you're looking at spending $500 or more on batteries, in a none > emergency replacement, it might be worthwhile to contact the > manufacturer and get the detail specs and reliability data on the > models you are considering. > > Happy to help if you have questions. > > Regards, > GPSGary > |
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