Speakking of Steering Boxes . . .

[Kurt Horvath]

Ok here's the scoop.

According to Jessie, and yes I DID NOT hear him correctly on my
answering machine, add that to the list of stuff that needs
upgrading,

The 1995 coaches do use different oils in the hydraulic system
according to engine type.

The 8V92 uses 10W30, synthetic oils are ok to use.

The Series 60 uses HD32 and Synthetics are also OK to use. BB cross
referenced the recommended Dino. oil with CASTROL VS977 Synthetic.

The capacity is 16 Quarts, Jessie recommended buying 5 Gallons just
to make sure you have enough to refill the system, the cost of 5
gallons is most likely a little cheaper.

To drain the system BB has a vacuum system that excavates the
reservoir. They do not recommend disconnecting any of the hydraulic
lines in fear of creating a leak or breaking any connections,
especially the elbow under the reservoir tank, I can understand that
the line and elbow are quite a bit heavier construction than the
tank, and BB has encountered past breakage at that particular point.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB S-60
10AC


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert
wrote:
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> I imagine this will come up again. Once you get it sorted out
consider leaving it in the files for the next guy with a 60series. I
learned something today. Something different.
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
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> --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> From: Kurt Horvath
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . .
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 9:31 AM
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> Waiting for Tech to call me back to clarify and with spec.'s on
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> Kurt Horvath
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> 95 PT-42 WLWB S-60
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> 10AC
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> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Kurt Horvath"
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> > Got a message yesterday from Jessie on my answering machine.
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> > The 95 BB with an 8V-92 uses 10w30, the 95 Bird with a series 60
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> > Also there is a Parker filter on the95 PT-42 with the series
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> > pricing, along with fluid capacity and perhaps an explanation why
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> > they used different oils in the coaches with different motors.
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> > Kurt Horvath
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> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Leroy Eckert
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> > > I try not to make it difficult. My BB manual has a specific red
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> > letter warning which calls for 10w30. It does not give me an
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> > so that is what I use. That is not to say that others do not have
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> > other compatible oil options. Along with the three filters in
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> > reservoir is a Parker filter in line on the street side of my
coach
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> > that has a warning light on it up by the rear start switch which
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> > tells the owner if it is in bypass or plugged. That filter is
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> > > Leroy Eckert
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> > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
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> > > Dahlonega, GA
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> > > Royale Conversion
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> > > --- On Mon, 8/25/08, freewill2008 wrote:
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> > > From: freewill2008
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> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering
Boxes . . .
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> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
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> > > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 1:07 PM
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> > > > Leroy A. Eckert: My power steering and hydraulic fan
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> > > > see that makes any difference. I know that is the same
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> > > Actually, it is not different. 10w-30 motor oil is one
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> > > > Leroy A. Eckert: However, I would not call the reservoir
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> > > > a steering box and I do not know the manufacturer of my
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> > > > steering box. I doubt it would take a different oil but
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> > > The reservoir holds extra oil that constantly circulates
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> > > pump), to the steering box, to your fan motor, and then
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> > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
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> > > > > For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of
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> > > > > including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of
ATF
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> > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
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> > > > > (Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K'
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> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "mbulriss"
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> > > > > > Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know
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> > > > > > and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-
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> > > > > > By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters &
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> > > > > > Mike Bulriss
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> > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
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