electrical problems

[Gary Smith]

While I have some minor disagreements with some of what Juergen said (there is only one common wire in the cable, two hot, and one ground), with loose wires, it is possible you crossed the two 120v hot lines, providing the high voltage he suggests. I believe the whole problem was caused by the poor connections, Don. Not sure how the ProSine should react to 240v hitting it, but could well weld some contacts, as you found.

Gary

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Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Electrical problems

Would it not be possible that with the loose wires in the connector, you could actually put 250 volts into the coach, remember that when you put your 50 amp cord in, you first shut off the circuit breakers so as to prevent an accidental 250 voltage input in case one ground wire makes no connection? A brief 250 volt shock will blow most electric things to bits. Remember there are 2 110 volt wires with each has its own return, if one return is not in contact, 250 V will hit and BOOOM. Possible?? Juergen in PA 1991 WLSP36 --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Don Bradner arcatapet.com> wrote: From: Don Bradner arcatapet.com> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Electrical problems To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 8:34 PM I've experienced two serious electrical problems on our current trip. I'm hoping the second problem (solved) was the cause of the first, but I can't get my head around exactly how it would be, so I'm hoping someone with more RV electrical experience than I have will have a clue. I will rest easier if I know what caused the first problem. The first problem I talked about here earlier, but will run through for clarity: With a lot of draw going on, I had the 50-amp breaker on the park pole blow, plus the main inside breakers, plus the breaker for the inverter. Power was lost on the inverter circuit, and did not return when breakers were turned back on with reduced draw. The inverter, a ProSine 2.0, is toast - burnt components obvious when opening the case. I removed the inverter and wired input/output together for power on the inverted circuit when on park power, and bought a small charger to keep the batteries up while parked. Xantrex sent out a new ProSine 2.0 (half-price, well out-of-warranty) and I will get it tomorrow. I've been worrying about hooking it up without knowing what caused the failure. Problem number 2: Yesterday I moved, and on arrival at a park in Ogallala the 50-amp park breaker blew as soon as turned on. After turning off the internal main breakers I was able to get the park breaker to hold after one more failure. The breaker was "spongy" so I wasn't sure if it was just weak. Turning on the main breakers inside worked fine. Moved again today, and the problem repeated except that nothing would make it work. In trying various things I found that my 30/50 cord worked fine. So, I took the coach connector apart and found: Screw for black wire fell out, and was quite black on the end. White and Red attached, but screw not tight. Green was not attached at all - screw all the way in, and wire laid across the top. Contacting case, but who knows how well. It is amazing I had power at all. I cut the end off and rebuilt the connector, and had no problem turning on the power. It would seem to be an odd coincidence if problem one was not caused by problem two, but since the ProSine 2.0 should in theory work regardless of what occurs on the input side I'm not sure what the connection is. Anybody have thoughts on this? Don Bradner 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder" Posting today by satellite from Grand Island, Nebraska My location: http://www.bbirdmaps. com/user2. cfm?user= 1

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