electrical problems

[Gregory OConnor]

45 Dummies, did you see the jackstands #45 put under the bus?
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> That was one expensive test. New Setra ($600K??) and 44 test
dummies.
> Wonder how fast it was traveling when it hit the wall -- there was
a
> lot of front end damage. Sure lets you know why they have
alternate
> escape hatches!
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Idaho Springs, CO
>
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>
> >
> > Mike,
> > It worked this time.
> > Notice the millisecond timer in the top left corner on the
interior
> > portion of the video, S--T happens fast. The second you don't
respect
> > one of these machines is when they let you know who's boss.
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42
> > 10Ac
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I see that Mike, here's the address again , You might havr to
copy
> >> and paste in address bar???
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrZr-QZbfxo
> >> Kurt Horvath
> >> 95 PT-42
> >> 10Ac
> >>
> >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Kurt,
> >>>
> >>> That link as posted does not work. YouTube says "the video you
> >>> requested is not available".
> >>>
> >>> FWIW,
> >>>
> >>> Mike Bulriss
> >>> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> >>> San Antonio, TX - not a real good weekend to go to the coast!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> John,
> >>>>
> >>>> Your so right, "The thing can crush you, electrocute you, you
> > can
> >>>> fall off, and then there is the road risk. I guess we can say
> > it
> >> can
> >>>> get you coming and going as well as a couple ways in between."
> >>>>
> >>>> Speaking of road risk here's a vivid reminder of what can
> > happen.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bus Crash Tes.tEver wonder what a bus crash looks like, check
> >> this
> >>>> out.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrZr-Qzbfxo
> >>>>
> >>>> Kurt Horvath
> >>>> 95 PT-42
> >>>> 10AC
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The 30 amp cord is pretty much a standard 110 with a funny
> > plug
> >> on
> >>>> it
> >>>>> then? I knew that 220 was essentially two 110 hot wires but
> >> did
> >>>> not
> >>>>> know that the 50 was similar. Having been in a RV store not
> >> long
> >>>> ago
> >>>>> I noticed they had a featured item up near the check out a 50
> >> amp
> >>>>> plug with a distinct pull handle on it. I think they also had
> >> 30amp
> >>>>> plugs similar. Didn't impress me at the time nearly as much
> > as
> >> it
> >>>>> does now. I don't have 50 amps into my coach but I learned
> >>>>> something. I also did not realize the risk involved in the
> >> battery
> >>>>> campartments. I was informed last year at the Maxton rally
> >> about
> >>>>> that. I guess the low voltage stuff can be rather nasty as
> >> well.
> >>>>> Perhaps some one will review and explain what the risk with
> > the
> >> low
> >>>>> voltage. Does make a rather nasty spark if you short the
> >> positive
> >>>>> against the metal I know that. All kinds of ways a fellow
> > can
> >> get
> >>>>> hurt. I was up on the roof of my bird this morning and I was
> >> VERY
> >>>>> careful. I remember seeing Don's X rays. I don't much like
> > it
> >> up
> >>>>> there but once a year I go up to check it over and see that
> > all
> >> is
> >>>>> well. Lets see. The thing can crush you, electrocute you,
> > you
> >> can
> >>>>> fall off, and then there is the road risk. I guess we can
> > say
> >> it
> >>>> can
> >>>>> get you coming and going as well as a couple ways in
> > between.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John Heckman
> >>>>> central Pa
> >>>>> 1973 FC
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I may not have been clear: It was the coach end of the
> > shore
> >>>> cord,
> >>>>> not the connector that is part of the coach. The pole end is
> > a
> >>>> molded
> >>>>> connector, but the coach end is not; don't know if that is
> >> original?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There is a plastic ring cinched down to the cord, just
> > behind
> >> the
> >>>>> connector. I never gave it much thought, but now I wonder why
> >> that
> >>>> is
> >>>>> there. It lends itself to be the point that is grabbed to
> > pull
> >> the
> >>>>> connector out, but that puts strain on the wires in the
> >> connector.
> >>>>> Clearly I should grab the connector body to pull it out, not
> >> the
> >>>>> wires.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 8/28/2008 at 8:31 PM Curt Sprenger wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Don,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Great Post...Everyone...All of us with our older coaches
> >> need to
> >>>>> do what
> >>>>>>> Don
> >>>>>>> just did, check our coach connectors. I'll add that we
> >> should
> >>>> also
> >>>>> check
> >>>>>>> our
> >>>>>>> shore cord coach ends.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> .On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Don Bradner
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've experienced two serious electrical problems on
> > our
> >>>>> current trip.
> >>>>>>>> I'm hoping the second problem (solved) was the cause of
> >> the
> >>>>> first, but I
> >>>>>>>> can't get my head around exactly how it would be, so I'm
> >>>> hoping
> >>>>> someone
> >>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>> more RV electrical experience than I have will have a
> >> clue. I
> >>>>> will rest
> >>>>>>>> easier if I know what caused the first problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The first problem I talked about here earlier, but will
> >> run
> >>>>> through for
> >>>>>>>> clarity:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> With a lot of draw going on, I had the 50-amp breaker on
> >> the
> >>>>> park pole
> >>>>>>>> blow, plus the main inside breakers, plus the breaker
> > for
> >> the
> >>>>> inverter.
> >>>>>>>> Power was lost on the inverter circuit, and did not
> > return
> >>>> when
> >>>>> breakers
> >>>>>>>> were turned back on with reduced draw. The inverter, a
> >> ProSine
> >>>>> 2.0, is
> >>>>>>> toast
> >>>>>>>> - burnt components obvious when opening the case. I
> >> removed
> >>>> the
> >>>>> inverter
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> wired input/output together for power on the inverted
> >> circuit
> >>>>> when on
> >>>>>>> park
> >>>>>>>> power, and bought a small charger to keep the batteries
> > up
> >>>> while
> >>>>> parked.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Xantrex sent out a new ProSine 2.0 (half-price, well out-
> >> of-
> >>>>> warranty)
> >>>>>>> and I
> >>>>>>>> will get it tomorrow. I've been worrying about hooking
> > it
> >> up
> >>>>> without
> >>>>>>> knowing
> >>>>>>>> what caused the failure.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Problem number 2: Yesterday I moved, and on arrival at a
> >> park
> >>>> in
> >>>>> Ogallala
> >>>>>>>> the 50-amp park breaker blew as soon as turned on. After
> >>>> turning
> >>>>> off the
> >>>>>>>> internal main breakers I was able to get the park
> > breaker
> >> to
> >>>>> hold after
> >>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>> more failure. The breaker was "spongy" so I wasn't sure
> > if
> >> it
> >>>>> was just
> >>>>>>> weak.
> >>>>>>>> Turning on the main breakers inside worked fine.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Moved again today, and the problem repeated except that
> >>>> nothing
> >>>>> would
> >>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>> it work. In trying various things I found that my 30/50
> >> cord
> >>>>> worked fine.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So, I took the coach connector apart and found:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Screw for black wire fell out, and was quite black on
> > the
> >> end.
> >>>>> White and
> >>>>>>>> Red attached, but screw not tight. Green was not
> > attached
> >> at
> >>>>> all - screw
> >>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>> the way in, and wire laid across the top. Contacting
> > case,
> >> but
> >>>>> who knows
> >>>>>>> how
> >>>>>>>> well.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It is amazing I had power at all. I cut the end off and
> >>>> rebuilt
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> connector, and had no problem turning on the power.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It would seem to be an odd coincidence if problem one
> > was
> >> not
> >>>>> caused by
> >>>>>>>> problem two, but since the ProSine 2.0 should in theory
> >> work
> >>>>> regardless
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>> what occurs on the input side I'm not sure what the
> >> connection
> >>>>> is.
> >>>>>>> Anybody
> >>>>>>>> have thoughts on this?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Don Bradner
> >>>>>>>> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> >>>>>>>> Posting today by satellite from Grand Island, Nebraska
> >>>>>>>> My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Curt Sprenger
> >>>>>>> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> >>>>>>> Anaheim Hills, CA
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
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