electrical problems

[jim riordan]

This is why a Bluebird is better than a Prevost

mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote:

Oh my! I wonder is that was a monocoque framework on that bus rather
than the solid steel frame rails the BB has?

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Kurt Horvath"
...> wrote:
>
>
> Mike,
> It worked this time.
> Notice the millisecond timer in the
top left corner on the interior
> portion of the video, S--T happens fast. The second you don't respect
> one of these machines is when they let you know who's boss.
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42
> 10Ac
>
> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Kurt Horvath"
> > wrote:
> >
> > I see that Mike, here's the address again , You might havr to copy
> > and paste in address bar???
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrZr-QZbfxo
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42
> > 10Ac
> >
> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Kurt,
> > >

> > > That link as posted does not work. YouTube says "the video you
> > > requested is not available".
> > >
> > > FWIW,
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > San Antonio, TX - not a real good weekend to go to the coast!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Kurt Horvath"
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > Your so right, "The thing can crush you, electrocute you, you
> can
> > > > fall off, and then there is the road risk. I guess we can say
> it
> > can
> > > > get you coming and going as well as a couple ways in between."
> >
> >
> > > > Speaking of road risk here's a vivid reminder of what can
> happen.
> > > >
> > > > Bus Crash Tes.tEver wonder what a bus crash looks like, check
> > this
> > > > out.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrZr-Qzbfxo
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > 95 PT-42
> > > > 10AC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bubblerboy64"
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The 30 amp cord is pretty much a standard 110 with a funny
> plug
> > on
> > > >
it
> > > > > then? I knew that 220 was essentially two 110 hot wires but
> > did
> > > > not
> > > > > know that the 50 was similar. Having been in a RV store not
> > long
> > > > ago
> > > > > I noticed they had a featured item up near the check out a 50
> > amp
> > > > > plug with a distinct pull handle on it. I think they also had
> > 30amp
> > > > > plugs similar. Didn't impress me at the time nearly as much
> as
> > it
> > > > > does now. I don't have 50 amps into my coach but I learned
> > > > > something. I also did not realize the risk involved in the
> > battery
> > > > > campartments. I was informed last year at the Maxton rally
> > about
> > > > > that. I guess the low voltage stuff can
be rather nasty as
> > well.
> > > > > Perhaps some one will review and explain what the risk with
> the
> > low
> > > > > voltage. Does make a rather nasty spark if you short the
> > positive
> > > > > against the metal I know that. All kinds of ways a fellow
> can
> > get
> > > > > hurt. I was up on the roof of my bird this morning and I was
> > VERY
> > > > > careful. I remember seeing Don's X rays. I don't much like
> it
> > up
> > > > > there but once a year I go up to check it over and see that
> all
> > is
> > > > > well. Lets see. The thing can crush you, electrocute you,
> you
> > can
> > > > > fall off, and then there is the road risk. I guess we can
> say
> > it
> > >
> can
> > > > > get you coming and going as well as a couple ways in
> between.
> > > > >
> > > > > John Heckman
> > > > > central Pa
> > > > > 1973 FC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I may not have been clear: It was the coach end of the
> shore
> > > > cord,
> > > > > not the connector that is part of the coach. The pole end is
> a
> > > > molded
> > > > > connector, but the coach end is not; don't know if that is
> > original?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is a plastic ring cinched down to the cord, just
> behind
> > the
> > > > > connector. I never gave it much thought, but now I
wonder why
> > that
> > > > is
> > > > > there. It lends itself to be the point that is grabbed to
> pull
> > the
> > > > > connector out, but that puts strain on the wires in the
> > connector.
> > > > > Clearly I should grab the connector body to pull it out, not
> > the
> > > > > wires.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/28/2008 at 8:31 PM Curt Sprenger wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Don,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Great Post...Everyone...All of us with our older coaches
> > need to
> > > > > do what
> > > > > > >Don
> > > > > > >just did, check our coach connectors. I'll add that we
> > should
> > >
> also
> > > > > check
> > > > > > >our
> > > > > > >shore cord coach ends.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >.On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Don Bradner
> > > > > > >>wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> I've experienced two serious electrical problems on
> our
> > > > > current trip.
> > > > > > >> I'm hoping the second problem (solved) was the cause of
> > the
> > > > > first, but I
> > > > > > >> can't get my head around exactly how it would be, so I'm
> > > > hoping
> > > > > someone
> > > > > > >with
> > > > > > >> more RV electrical experience than I have will have a

> > clue. I
> > > > > will rest
> > > > > > >> easier if I know what caused the first problem.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The first problem I talked about here earlier, but will
> > run
> > > > > through for
> > > > > > >> clarity:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> With a lot of draw going on, I had the 50-amp breaker on
> > the
> > > > > park pole
> > > > > > >> blow, plus the main inside breakers, plus the breaker
> for
> > the
> > > > > inverter.
> > > > > > >> Power was lost on the inverter circuit, and did not
> return
> > > > when
> > > > > breakers
> > > > > > >>
were turned back on with reduced draw. The inverter, a
> > ProSine
> > > > > 2.0, is
> > > > > > >toast
> > > > > > >> - burnt components obvious when opening the case. I
> > removed
> > > > the
> > > > > inverter
> > > > > > >and
> > > > > > >> wired input/output together for power on the inverted
> > circuit
> > > > > when on
> > > > > > >park
> > > > > > >> power, and bought a small charger to keep the batteries
> up
> > > > while
> > > > > parked.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Xantrex sent out a new ProSine 2.0 (half-price, well out-
> > of-
> > > > > warranty)
> > > > > >
>and I
> > > > > > >> will get it tomorrow. I've been worrying about hooking
> it
> > up
> > > > > without
> > > > > > >knowing
> > > > > > >> what caused the failure.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Problem number 2: Yesterday I moved, and on arrival at a
> > park
> > > > in
> > > > > Ogallala
> > > > > > >> the 50-amp park breaker blew as soon as turned on. After
> > > > turning
> > > > > off the
> > > > > > >> internal main breakers I was able to get the park
> breaker
> > to
> > > > > hold after
> > > > > > >one
> > > > > > >> more failure. The breaker was "spongy" so I wasn't sure

> if
> > it
> > > > > was just
> > > > > > >weak.
> > > > > > >> Turning on the main breakers inside worked fine.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Moved again today, and the problem repeated except that
> > > > nothing
> > > > > would
> > > > > > >make
> > > > > > >> it work. In trying various things I found that my 30/50
> > cord
> > > > > worked fine.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> So, I took the coach connector apart and found:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Screw for black wire fell out, and was quite black on
> the
> > end.
> > > > > White and
> > > > > >
>> Red attached, but screw not tight. Green was not
> attached
> > at
> > > > > all - screw
> > > > > > >all
> > > > > > >> the way in, and wire laid across the top. Contacting
> case,
> > but
> > > > > who knows
> > > > > > >how
> > > > > > >> well.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> It is amazing I had power at all. I cut the end off and
> > > > rebuilt
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >> connector, and had no problem turning on the power.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> It would seem to be an odd coincidence if problem one
> was
> > not
> > > > > caused by
> > > > > > >> problem
two, but since the ProSine 2.0 should in theory
> > work
> > > > > regardless
> > > > > > >of
> > > > > > >> what occurs on the input side I'm not sure what the
> > connection
> > > > > is.
> > > > > > >Anybody
> > > > > > >> have thoughts on this?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Don Bradner
> > > > > > >> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> > > > > > >> Posting today by satellite from Grand Island, Nebraska
> > > > > > >> My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >--
> > > > > > >Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > >1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > >Anaheim Hills, CA
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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