Hot skin safety test time
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09-03-2008, 10:46
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Hot skin safety test time
Ralph,
Does this apply to the coaches that have 50 amp service? If so, and I plug into a 30 amp. outlet only one leg of the two leg system is hot, the other side has no power, Do I run the test as first decribed or is there an alternative proceedure? I have on rare occasions felt that tingling on the coach. Thanks, Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 10AC --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > Yes there is logic to that because the ground and neutral tie is not > present so there is only a path back to neutral and not ground, but still > go through the switching each breaker off and check. You will or should not > have a hot skin when plugged into campground shore power, or gen set, and > the hot skin is more prevalent when plugged into a 110 vac source vs 220 vac. > > In recent posts, we learned that the only place that the neutral and ground > are to be bonded together is at the source only and not the coach. I have > seen the neutral and ground bonded in the heater in the bath where the > wiring got hot and melted through the wire nuts because the wire nuts were > not tight and taped and this was causing the hot skin test to fail. I also > found much the same thing in a 4x4 electrical box in route to the water heater. > > I needed to mention the adapter to 110vac should be used for this test. > > Safe travels, > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond" > Duncan, Oklahoma > > At 10:16 PM 9/3/2008 +0000, you wrote: > >Ralph, thanks for this, I have "hot skin" and also had it on my old > >FC. I have a question... > > > >One question...my coach is plugged into a non-grounded (the old 2- pin > >type) outlet when parked at home. I am no electrician, but I had > >convinced myself that this non-grounded outlet was the source of > >my "hot skin". The "hot skin" isn't there when on generator power. > >Is there any logic to that theory? > > > >Scott Forman > >86 PT38 > >Memphis > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > > > > > > > Hello everyone: > > > > > > It has been a warm summer for most of us and the A/C's have been > >running > > > leaving the heaters and other things at rest. > > > > > > I have been doing up grades and some R&R on some of the systems in > >Ruff > > > Diamond. And with winter coming up I decided it was time to do a > >hot skin > > > test as it is on my PM list every 6 months. > > > > > > What your checking for is any rise in AC voltage from a > >ground/ground > > > source with the negative lead on your meter attached to that and > >the red > > > lead to probe several spots around the door frame metal. What you > >should > > > see when first hooking up the meter is .0001 plus or minus 0. If > >you see a > > > reading of .0201 reading then you have a hot skin with 1/4 volts AC > >(it can > > > be as much as 1/2 volt AC), and need to find the source of the > >voltage. > > > What will a hot skin do? It will send a tingling through your body > >if you > > > touch any metal part of the Coach while standing in a rain puddle > >or if > > > your sweaty and hot skin has been known to send enough voltage via > >amperage > > > through your hand to ground to knock you off the step and yes, > >deaths have > > > occurred. Is it serious, darn right it is. > > > > > > If you don't have a deviation great, fold it up your done and you > >and your > > > Family are safe. If you do have voltage then use a clip lead and > >connect > > > the red lead to a point around the door and go to the main breaker > >box and > > > starting with one breaker (either leg) switch it off and check the > >meter > > > for change, do this on both legs until you find a change and what > >ever > > > breaker you switch off the difference is noted then that is the AC > > > electrical circuit you need to find the problem on. > > > > > > If, when you first do the check and the meter range is un stable > >try > > > pouring a glass of water on the ground rod you drove into the > >ground for > > > your ground /ground. If the meter is still ranging up and down then > >more > > > than likely you do not have a hot skin but dirty contacts on the > >change > > > over switch, automatic or manual it does not matter. > > > > > > Oh for my ground I use a copper tool I made for doing this. You can > >take an > > > 18inch length of rebar, sharpen one end and drive it into the > >ground just > > > out side the door way so you can attach the black meter lead to it. > > > > > > The whold think take less and 10 minutes to do and you know if your > >safe or > > > that you need to find the problem. > > > > > > Safe travels, > > > > > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > > > 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond" > > > Duncan, Oklahoma > > > > > > |
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Hot skin safety test time - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 09-03-2008, 09:29
Hot skin safety test time - Scott Forman - 09-03-2008, 10:16
Hot skin safety test time - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 09-03-2008, 10:35
Hot skin safety test time - Kurt Horvath - 09-03-2008 10:46
Hot skin safety test time - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 09-03-2008, 10:52
Hot skin safety test time - Kurt Horvath - 09-03-2008, 10:59
Hot skin safety test time - Gregory OConnor - 09-04-2008, 04:41
Hot skin safety test time - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 09-04-2008, 17:35
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