Hot skin safety test time

[Kurt Horvath]

Thanks Ralph,

I should have read your first post twice.

Kurt

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
wrote:
>
> Kurt:
>
> You can use an adapter for the 50 amp to 20 amp and 110vac will be
on both
> legs. You won't be running and major items while doing this test
but it
> will suffice to do the test and check.
>
> Ralph
>
> At 10:46 PM 9/3/2008 +0000, you wrote:
> >Ralph,
> >
> >Does this apply to the coaches that have 50 amp service?
> >If so, and I plug into a 30 amp. outlet only one leg of the two leg
> >system is hot, the other side has no power, Do I run the test as
> >first decribed or is there an alternative proceedure?
> >I have on rare occasions felt that tingling on the coach.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Kurt Horvath
> >95 PT-42
> >10AC
> >
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes there is logic to that because the ground and neutral tie is
> >not
> > > present so there is only a path back to neutral and not ground,
but
> >still
> > > go through the switching each breaker off and check. You will or
> >should not
> > > have a hot skin when plugged into campground shore power, or gen
> >set, and
> > > the hot skin is more prevalent when plugged into a 110 vac
source
> >vs 220 vac.
> > >
> > > In recent posts, we learned that the only place that the neutral
> >and ground
> > > are to be bonded together is at the source only and not the
coach.
> >I have
> > > seen the neutral and ground bonded in the heater in the bath
where
> >the
> > > wiring got hot and melted through the wire nuts because the wire
> >nuts were
> > > not tight and taped and this was causing the hot skin test to
fail.
> >I also
> > > found much the same thing in a 4x4 electrical box in route to
the
> >water heater.
> > >
> > > I needed to mention the adapter to 110vac should be used for
this
> >test.
> > >
> > > Safe travels,
> > >
> > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > > 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> > > Duncan, Oklahoma
> > >
> > > At 10:16 PM 9/3/2008 +0000, you wrote:
> > > >Ralph, thanks for this, I have "hot skin" and also had it on
my old
> > > >FC. I have a question...
> > > >
> > > >One question...my coach is plugged into a non-grounded (the
old 2-
> >pin
> > > >type) outlet when parked at home. I am no electrician, but I
had
> > > >convinced myself that this non-grounded outlet was the source
of
> > > >my "hot skin". The "hot skin" isn't there when on generator
power.
> > > >Is there any logic to that theory?
> > > >
> > > >Scott Forman
> > > >86 PT38
> > > >Memphis
> > > >
> > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello everyone:
> > > > >
> > > > > It has been a warm summer for most of us and the A/C's have
been
> > > >running
> > > > > leaving the heaters and other things at rest.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been doing up grades and some R&R on some of the
systems
> >in
> > > >Ruff
> > > > > Diamond. And with winter coming up I decided it was time to
do a
> > > >hot skin
> > > > > test as it is on my PM list every 6 months.
> > > > >
> > > > > What your checking for is any rise in AC voltage from a
> > > >ground/ground
> > > > > source with the negative lead on your meter attached to
that and
> > > >the red
> > > > > lead to probe several spots around the door frame metal.
What
> >you
> > > >should
> > > > > see when first hooking up the meter is .0001 plus or minus
0. If
> > > >you see a
> > > > > reading of .0201 reading then you have a hot skin with 1/4
> >volts AC
> > > >(it can
> > > > > be as much as 1/2 volt AC), and need to find the source of
the
> > > >voltage.
> > > > > What will a hot skin do? It will send a tingling through
your
> >body
> > > >if you
> > > > > touch any metal part of the Coach while standing in a rain
> >puddle
> > > >or if
> > > > > your sweaty and hot skin has been known to send enough
voltage
> >via
> > > >amperage
> > > > > through your hand to ground to knock you off the step and
yes,
> > > >deaths have
> > > > > occurred. Is it serious, darn right it is.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you don't have a deviation great, fold it up your done
and
> >you
> > > >and your
> > > > > Family are safe. If you do have voltage then use a clip
lead and
> > > >connect
> > > > > the red lead to a point around the door and go to the main
> >breaker
> > > >box and
> > > > > starting with one breaker (either leg) switch it off and
check
> >the
> > > >meter
> > > > > for change, do this on both legs until you find a change and
> >what
> > > >ever
> > > > > breaker you switch off the difference is noted then that is
the
> >AC
> > > > > electrical circuit you need to find the problem on.
> > > > >
> > > > > If, when you first do the check and the meter range is un
stable
> > > >try
> > > > > pouring a glass of water on the ground rod you drove into
the
> > > >ground for
> > > > > your ground /ground. If the meter is still ranging up and
down
> >then
> > > >more
> > > > > than likely you do not have a hot skin but dirty contacts
on the
> > > >change
> > > > > over switch, automatic or manual it does not matter.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh for my ground I use a copper tool I made for doing this.
You
> >can
> > > >take an
> > > > > 18inch length of rebar, sharpen one end and drive it into
the
> > > >ground just
> > > > > out side the door way so you can attach the black meter
lead to
> >it.
> > > > >
> > > > > The whold think take less and 10 minutes to do and you know
if
> >your
> > > >safe or
> > > > > that you need to find the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > Safe travels,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > > > > 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> > > > > Duncan, Oklahoma
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> Duncan, Oklahoma
>