Broken Cord on Michelin Tire
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09-09-2008, 04:54
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Broken Cord on Michelin Tire
NEIL:
Aint it safest just to fill air to whatever MAX it says on the tire????? Anyway...that's what I've done on my BIRD and my car for umpteen years....... Regards, Hank 90SP36 PS I have 12R22.5 Bridgestones on the BIRD and Goodyears on the Honda toad. --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Neil & Pat" wrote: > > Hi Pete, David, Greg, Randy and all else who have been following this > thread. You called for a tire engineer to make input into this subject; > well I have been doing that for 36 years now and also happen to own and > operate a Wanderlodge (PT-36 ) for the past 12 years and have written > extensively on the subject of RV safety in my book on the subject as well as > respond to many of the tire questions posed on this and other forums. > Perhaps I can help. > > The original question was re: a broken belt (actually shifted) on a Michelin > tire with the thought was this a problem on the Michelin tires and would it > be subject to warranty. At 27k miles the tire problem in question is > almost certainly the result of a "road hazard" either a rock, shoulder drop > off, hitting a curb or possibly even improper usage of "chocks" for leveling > or other purposes. Had it been a manufacturing problem it would have shown > up much before that time. You did receive proper advice in that this is not > a warrantable condition by the manufacturer but often dealers do provide > "road hazard" protection as a service to their customers. > > This is one of the major differences between truck tires and those used on > automobiles; in order to carry heavy loads much higher pressures are used > and the tire is normally operated at a lower deflection rating. On trucks > the deflection of the sidewall when normally inflated is on average 8% by > design when it is properly inflated for the load carried, in contrast on an > automobile tire the deflection is approximately 12%, thus, yielding a > smoother ride and a tire less susceptible to impact loads as mentioned > above. For your interest aviation tires actually operate at 32% deflection > to carry the immense loads involved but do so with a duty cycle limited to a > few seconds. The "hoop strength" of the belt package" is under immense > tension from the inflation of the tire becoming more and more rigid and > unyielding as pressure goes up making the tire much more critical to this > type of abuse. So for our RVs we have a quandary, RVs are the only vehicles > on the road, which operate at 100% of the capability 100% of the time making > their safe operation somewhat precarious. We must carry the correct (high) > amount of air pressure to carry the load (at the correct deflection rate) > but should not exceed that pressure or operate below the required amount. > Higher pressure than required will yield decreased steering power, braking > power, higher impact type damage as well as decrease life; too low a > pressure will result in over deflection, hotter running temperatures > (possibly destructive), poor handling, greatly reduced life and the > potential for catastrophic premature failure. Take your pick, but none of > these options are very appealing to me. > > The above realities of life is the reason why the tire manufacturers, the > RVSEF and myself all repeatedly attend and lecture at rallies and anywhere > RVers gather to spread the word that RVs are different and incur > considerably more operator responsibilities from the owner/operators. It is > absolutely essential that you have your RV weighed properly wheel by wheel > to assure that none are overloaded and then and only then determine the > correct pressure for your specific RV under the conditions you operate it. > Plain and simple there is no other way. > > Always happy to be of assistance: > > Neil LeKander > Author, The Rver's Ultimate Survial Guide > http://www.rvsafetyinfo.com > > less likely to crush to the wheel rim, possibly protecting the tire > from pinching damage, but the high pressure would also place the tire > under tension pressure ... so??? > > Any tire engineers out there? > > Pete Masterson > |
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Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Randy Merrill - 09-07-2008, 05:05
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Gary Smith - 09-07-2008, 05:35
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Ross - 09-07-2008, 05:47
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Ross - 09-08-2008, 02:35
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Gregory OConnor - 09-08-2008, 04:21
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Pete Masterson - 09-08-2008, 04:40
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - bubblerboy64 - 09-08-2008, 04:57
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - David Brady - 09-08-2008, 05:26
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - bubblerboy64 - 09-08-2008, 05:56
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Ross MacKillop - 09-08-2008, 06:07
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Pete Masterson - 09-08-2008, 06:31
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Pete Masterson - 09-08-2008, 06:34
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Gregory OConnor - 09-08-2008, 16:09
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - David Brady - 09-08-2008, 16:36
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Neil & Pat - 09-09-2008, 04:37
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Henry Jay Hannigan - 09-09-2008 04:54
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - David Brady - 09-09-2008, 05:39
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Neil & Pat - 09-09-2008, 13:48
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Hisham Amaral - 09-09-2008, 13:48
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - David Brady - 09-10-2008, 05:42
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Henry Jay Hannigan - 09-10-2008, 06:18
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Hisham Amaral - 09-10-2008, 13:00
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - erniecarpet@... - 09-11-2008, 08:42
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Neil & Pat - 09-11-2008, 12:32
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