Broken Cord on Michelin Tire
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09-09-2008, 13:48
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Broken Cord on Michelin Tire
Hank, there is no question that under inflation is Regards, Neil Author, The Rver’s Ultimate Survival -----Original Message----- NEIL: Aint it safest just to fill air to whatever MAX it says on the tire????? Anyway...that' umpteen years....... Regards, Hank 90SP36 PS I have 12R22.5 Bridgestones on the BIRD and Goodyears on the Honda toad. --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Neil & Pat" wrote: > > Hi Pete, David, Greg, Randy and all else who have been following this > thread. You called for a tire engineer to make input into this subject; > well I have been doing that for 36 years now and also happen to own and > operate a Wanderlodge (PT-36 ) for the past 12 years and have written > extensively on the subject of RV safety in my book on the subject as well as > respond to many of the tire questions posed on this and other forums. > Perhaps I can help. > > The original question was re: a broken belt (actually shifted) on a Michelin > tire with the thought was this a problem on the Michelin tires and would it > be subject to warranty. At 27k miles the tire problem in question is > almost certainly the result of a "road hazard" either a rock, shoulder drop > off, hitting a curb or possibly even improper usage of "chocks" for leveling > or other purposes. Had it been a manufacturing problem it would have shown > up much before that time. You did receive proper advice in that this is not > a warrantable condition by the manufacturer but often dealers do provide > "road hazard" protection as a service to their customers. > > This is one of the major differences between truck tires and those used on > automobiles; in order to carry heavy loads much higher pressures are used > and the tire is normally operated at a lower deflection rating. On trucks > the deflection of the sidewall when normally inflated is on average 8% by > design when it is properly inflated for the load carried, in contrast on an > automobile tire the deflection is approximately 12%, thus, yielding a > smoother ride and a tire less susceptible to impact loads as mentioned > above. For your interest aviation tires actually operate at 32% deflection > to carry the immense loads involved but do so with a duty cycle limited to a > few seconds. The "hoop strength" of the belt package" is under immense > tension from the inflation of the tire becoming more and more rigid and > unyielding as pressure goes up making the tire much more critical to this > type of abuse. So for our RVs we have a quandary, RVs are the only vehicles > on the road, which operate at 100% of the capability 100% of the time making > their safe operation somewhat precarious. We must carry the correct (high) > amount of air pressure to carry the load (at the correct deflection rate) > but should not exceed that pressure or operate below the required amount. > Higher pressure than required will yield decreased steering power, braking > power, higher impact type damage as well as decrease life; too low a > pressure will result in over deflection, hotter running temperatures > (possibly destructive) > potential for catastrophic premature failure. Take your pick, but none of > these options are very appealing to me. > > The above realities of life is the reason why the tire manufacturers, the > RVSEF and myself all repeatedly attend and lecture at rallies and anywhere > RVers gather to spread the word that RVs are different and incur > considerably more operator responsibilities from the owner/operators. It is > absolutely essential that you have your RV weighed properly wheel by wheel > to assure that none are overloaded and then and only then determine the > correct pressure for your specific RV under the conditions you operate it. > Plain and simple there is no other way. > > Always happy to be of assistance: > > Neil LeKander > Author, The Rver's Ultimate Survial Guide > http://www.rvsafetyinfo. > > less likely to crush to the wheel rim, possibly protecting the tire > from pinching damage, but the high pressure would also place the tire > under tension pressure ... so??? > > Any tire engineers out there? > > Pete Masterson >
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Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Randy Merrill - 09-07-2008, 05:05
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Gary Smith - 09-07-2008, 05:35
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Ross - 09-07-2008, 05:47
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Ross - 09-08-2008, 02:35
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Gregory OConnor - 09-08-2008, 04:21
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Pete Masterson - 09-08-2008, 04:40
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - bubblerboy64 - 09-08-2008, 04:57
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - David Brady - 09-08-2008, 05:26
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - bubblerboy64 - 09-08-2008, 05:56
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Ross MacKillop - 09-08-2008, 06:07
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Pete Masterson - 09-08-2008, 06:31
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Pete Masterson - 09-08-2008, 06:34
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Gregory OConnor - 09-08-2008, 16:09
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - David Brady - 09-08-2008, 16:36
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Neil & Pat - 09-09-2008, 04:37
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Henry Jay Hannigan - 09-09-2008, 04:54
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - David Brady - 09-09-2008, 05:39
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Neil & Pat - 09-09-2008 13:48
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Hisham Amaral - 09-09-2008, 13:48
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - David Brady - 09-10-2008, 05:42
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Henry Jay Hannigan - 09-10-2008, 06:18
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Hisham Amaral - 09-10-2008, 13:00
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - erniecarpet@... - 09-11-2008, 08:42
Broken Cord on Michelin Tire - Neil & Pat - 09-11-2008, 12:32
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