Adding Satellite dish

[Don Bradner]

The "locals" thing is a separate can of worms. At least in theory, you can't
receive both locals and "distant" national networks at the same time, but I do
know people with DTV who have fallen through the cracks, and it used to be
common with Dish before they lost the "Distant" capability.

In order to provide "Distant" the channels have to be on national beams, while
every other local is on a spot beam (some of the spots are many hundreds of
miles wide).

So, someone with LA or NY locals with DirecTV will receive those locals
everywhere without applying for "Distant" status. Dish used 5 locals for
nationwide beams - Atlanta, New York, Chicago, Denver, and LA. Some of those may
have been dropped back to spot beams now that they can't offer nationwide, and
the others may drop back in the future. The reason for dropping the national
would be because they can use the bandwidth for additional locals.

So, Leroy, both you and your friend may one day be out of your area and suddenly
find that your home stations no longer arrive. There will be no notice, because
technically they have no customers in those out-of-market locations.

On 9/15/2008 at 3:51 PM Leroy Eckert wrote:

>I would like to add this since I know it is correct and applies to me and
>at least one other RV full timer I know. My friend who has a Chicago
>address and uses DISH receives Chicago local national channels in DeFuniak
>Springs, FL during the winter. I receive Atlanta anywhere I go presumably
>because that is my home local channels. I do no know technically why and
>really will not spend trying to figure it out.I think it has to do with
>spot beams.???? Before DISH got into a BrooHaHA with broadcasting national
>channels I used to get NY and LA.
>Don's statement about finding a DTv or DISH tech who knows anything about
>in motion is correct and is very rare. They are all sub contractors. These
>guys do not know what a bus is. The first obstacal is to convince them
>that the bus moves. My account is set up as A and B. A for
> stationary(home) and B mobile on the bus, and even then I sometimes have
>to call them and have them send a signal to my smart card in the coach.
>Not always though. One would think in this electronic chain world once its
>fixed it would stay fixed.
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>As a side story, I was tired of messing with DISH two years ago so I
>called DTv. I explained what I was going to do, gave them detailed
>information and antenna type and they said no problem. When the tech
>arrived to set up the bus he had a fixed antenna on board. I did not need
>an antenna of course, so I sent him packing. I stayed with DISH. Six one
>way, half dosen the other. Neither company has any sense if you ask me.
>They just sell TV service. Service is quite another matter.
>Leroy Eckert
>1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
>Dahlonega, GA
>Royale Conversion
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>--- On Mon, 9/15/08, Don Bradner wrote:
>From: Don Bradner
>Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Adding Satellite dish
>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 5:40 PM
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>As far as DirecTV or Dish mobile, running into a DTV or Dish rep that
>knows anything about mobile is very unusual. The "normal" way is to simply
>not tell them, since it doesn't matter, although Dish does now have a $5
>per month charge on their DVRs if they are not hooked up to a phone line.
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>There are a variety of nuances, such as obtaining "Distant Network"
>stations, which those of us who travel a lot like. With DTV you just fill
>in the waiver form and mail it in with a copy of your RV registration.
>Dish used to not allow similar, but played too loose and are now
>prohibited from providing national networks; there is, however an
>affiliated company that can provide that service. DTV stations are New
>York and LA, and the third-party company for Dish uses Atlanta and San
>Francisco.
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>On 9/15/2008 at 3:39 PM Kurt Horvath wrote:
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>>I didn't quite understand the part about Direct TV. Was it the part
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>>about Hi-Def. or that it wouldn't work with the in motion unit.
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>>I had Dish Net in the house and when I tried to get it in the coach
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>>they said no way Jose. I asked Direct for in motion service for the
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>>coach and they answered no problem, then gave me a better deal than
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>>Dish for the house, shop, and coach. $98.00 for 180 channels + 50
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>>movie channels, XM and a bunch of other stuff I never watch or listen
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>>to. I can't tell the difference in reception from base station dish,
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>>house and shop or in-motion,coach, they both work great.
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>>Kurt Horvath
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>>--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Don Bradner"
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>>> It is a tough decision. The compromises with an in-motion unit are
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>>significant - they always work less-well than an open-face unit. Why?
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>>Because with satellite, dish size is important, and in-motion have
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>>the smallest dishes of them all. However, if reception while under-
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>>> For me, I decided 3 years ago, which was prior to my BB days, that
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>>I would not buy any more TV items for home or coach that was not HD-
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>>> For in-motion listening Sirius or XM does the job nicely.
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>>> Don Bradner
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>>> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
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>>> Motosat SL-5 HD and Sirius radio
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>>> Posting today by satellite from Lexington, VA
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>>> On 9/14/2008 at 9:36 PM P & D wrote:
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>>> >when we take the grand kids it will be nice, but we figure for 400
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>>> >From: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
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>>> >[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Gregory
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>>> >Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 8:17 PM
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>>> >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Adding Satellite dish
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>>> >Will you use an in motion? I have a Motosat that I spent over a
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>>> >grand repairing. the Factory tech said he can sell me their
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>>> >infalable, top notch unit refurbished for a grand. My question
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>>> >We dont use it much while driving. I wouldnt by inmo to start
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>>> >because of need . but your need may differ.
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>>> >GregoryO'Connor
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>>> >> I am going to add a in-motion satellite dish and wonder if there
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>>> >> any special tricks to make it work well. I am looking at King
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>>> >> 9762-LP from Kingdom2.com for 995.00 which is for a factory
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>>> >> refurbished unit. I talked to Curt and he said that his dome was
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>>> >> mounted to a plate and then the plate was bolted to the roof
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>>> >> When mounting, do you just drill thru roof plate and into bus
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>>> >> seal on top and will that also seal the hole in the bus roof
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>>> >> Any help will be greatly appreciated
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>>> >> Thanks
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>>> >> Paul Potter
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>>> >> 1987 PT38
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>>> >> Hesperia CA
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