Wet sleeve explained

[Gregory OConnor]

I wished it was a simple fix. The good thing is now you will have
a perfect running dependable Bus. Maybe Paulson can include the
repair tab in his package???


Greg and Tim

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
wrote:
>
> They already have it torn down. It would cost a bundle to just
put it
> back together to get it back. Heads overheated, but I have no way
of
> knowing if they are really damaged or not. Overheat plugs did
melt.
> I'm pretty much at their mercy. If they only replaced the two
damaged
> sleeves that are obvious and the engine failed again on the return
> trip, I would not have any warranty at all. Most of the overheat
> happened after the shut down because most of the coolant was
dumped.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> wrote:
> >
> > I posted that for you to have some insight info when the shop
> > called. Kinda thought it was a sleeve seal when you said it
emptied
> > quick. a cracked head and waterpump gasket would take some time.
you
> > can always only drop in a sleeve to repair the bad one if you
didnt
> > get things too hot. the garage is gonna sell you the works
because
> > they can and it is sure to get any other issue that may or
maynot
> > exist delt with.
> >
> > get a price on dropping in some sleves or just the one to bring
it
> > to a local with better US craftsmanship. a trap door in the
bedroom
> > closet would speed a rebuild up and reduce labor cost.
> >
> > I hope you get it going for Quartzsite,
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Greg: I can tell you first hand now, that a sleeved engine is
> > flawed
> > > and the failure of any seal, unless it is idling, will cause
> > > catastrophic failure and total rebuild. This is true
especially if
> > > you expect any kind of warranty on the work. Your warranty
for a
> > > partial is only 30 days. BIG DEAL!.
> > >
> > > I just lost my engine in less than 1.5 minutes from first
> > > indication of a problem.
> > >
> > > I'm sure the whole purpose behind the sleeved engine is
less
> > > weight and cost in manufacture, but it makes the user the
> > scapegoat in
> > > the case of any failure. To make matters worse, the warranty
for a
> > > re-build is awful as it related to motorhome use. The factory
only
> > > gives you 12 months and unlimited mileage. A commercial
vehicle
> > such
> > > as a long-haul truck can log up to 50,000 miles in that 12
months
> > and
> > > it is a good warranty. The average motorhome owner only puts
on
> > > around 10,000 miles in the same period and usually less than
that.
> > > Not much of a warranty under those conditions.
> > >
> > > I could purchase a used FC for the price of one engine
> > failure in
> > > a Detroit 8V92.
> > >
> > > Detroit gives much better warranties on the Series 60,
but it
> > too
> > > is a sleeved engine. I wonder what the failure record is on
that
> > one?
> > >
> > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > > Currently sitting in Calgary, Alberta (Broken)
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > here is a video on wet sleeve vs dry. it also depicts the
> > importance on
> > > > maintaining coolant integrity. 8v92 6v92 and series 60 are
wet
> > sleeve
> > > > the kubota gensets are drySleeved.
> > > >
> > > > the two stroke V92's have intake/exhaust ports on the side
of
> > the
> > > > sleeve and require more sealing surface . minor pitting near
a
> > seal on
> > > > the waterside can let the seal go. and dump coolant in the
oil.
> > > >
> > > > cylinder sleeve video
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > <http://video.google.com/videosearch?
gbv=2&hl=en&safe=off&q=wet%
> > 20sleeve\
> > > > %20cross&ndsp=20&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iv#q=wet%20sleeve%
> > 20&hl=en&emb=0> The
> > > > FC and SP 3208's have not a sleeve so a single cylinder
> > inframe is not
> > > > possible. some call the 3208 'throwaway engines' because
it is
> > always
> > > > completly rebuilt at the failure of one cylinder wall
(3208's are
> > > > notorious for waterjacket issues at one cylinder so coolant
> > integrity is
> > > > as important). problem with a sleeved engine is once your
> > engine
> > > > looses coolant you cant tell how compramise all the other
seals
> > are and
> > > > a total rebuild is prudent. kinda think that is why private
> > coaches are
> > > > rebuilt more often than just repaired
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > >
> >
>