Washer/Dryer

[Leroy Eckert]

I have never had a problem with either, or critters. I think functional efficiency is the key. Engineers consider esthetics because a wrench does not fit their hand. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Don Bradner wrote: From: Don Bradner Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Washer/Dryer To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 5:28 PM The louvered vent such as Leroy has, or the flap that is under my vent cover, are standard fair in 10's of thousands of RVs. I've never, ever, heard of them being a problem with water or unwanted air flow. Don Bradner 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder" Posting today by satellite from Selma, North Carolina My location: http://www.bbirdmaps. com/user2. cfm?user= 1 On 10/1/2008 at 5:08 PM Pete Masterson wrote: >The advantage: the shortest and straightest vent line route is >generally preferred for maximum dryer efficiency. > >The disadvantages: aesthetic considerations in integrating the 'hole' >in the side of the coach, plus the need to ensure a good water seal >for inclement weather. > >You'll still need to have some sort of open/close vent valve to >ensure that unwanted air flow (in or out) is not a problem depending >on road speeds, pressure zones along the body while driving, winds, etc.. > >The weather sealing and pressure issues might be very difficult to >handle adequately with a straight through the side mounting. > >I observe that the volume of air through the dryer is considerably >less than that of a home-style dryer. I doubt that the resistance >caused by the current installation is much of a factor. > >Obviously, my coach, with the center-line location of the dryer >actually has a fairly 'straight out' installation. The vent (upper >rear of the machine) has a 90 degree bend, the hose diagonals across >the back slightly to the street side of the coach, then the exit is >out the bottom floor in the wheel/axle area. Due to the mounting of >the air-operated open/close valve, there's another gradual bend that >equates to a total of a second 90 degree curve. Still, with the low >air volume (compared to more robust machines), I don't think air >resistance is a major factor. The tubing seems to be the same 4" >dryer vent that I have on my home dryer... > >Pete Masterson >'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 >"aeonix1%40mac.com" >On the road at Mill City, PA > > > >On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote: > >> What do you guys think of poking a hole through the body to exhaust >> the dryer staight out from the machine? The current vent system is a >> wreck and isn't very effective even if it were rebuilt. >> >> Kurt Horvath >> 95 PT 42 >> 10AC >> >> In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Pete Masterson >> wrote: >>> >>> Well, at least I didn't get a Friday afternoon job. Everything was >>> properly installed -- floor supported, etc. Must have been a >>> Wednesday, mid-morning installation. ... >>> >>> I agree that the trap was small, so non-use of the washer and hot >>> weather could combine to allow some odor problems. My storage >>> location (in the SF Bay Area) doesn't present much of a challenge >> to >>> sewer traps, fortunately. .. >>> >>> Pete Masterson >>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 >>> aeonix1@... >>> On the road near Scranton, PA >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 30, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote: >>> >>>> Now were having fun! The dryer exhaust tube is pinched in half, >>>> obviously when installed they just pushed the washer in and >> chinked >>>> the tube. There was enough lint to weave a shirt, the water hose >> is >>>> kinked in half and showing signs of cracking, the electric heater >>>> under the W/D is not mounted very well it's just hanging on from >> the >>>> grill and the air powered vent is seized up, the air cylinder is >>>> functional and the on/off light is working for the first time >> ever. >>>> The floor was cut away to allow access for the dryer vent hose but >>>> they did not block it up in any way. So one side of the closet >> floor >>>> is just hanging in air. Must have been a Friday Afternoon. Yes >> Pete I >>>> did have to take the door off. No signs of any past water damage >> so >>>> far. There is a small water trap but I sure in a few weeks of hot >>>> weather when not being used it would evaporate. Still looking for >> the >>>> elusive Pipe vent, I think it's behind the pantry. >>>> >>>> Kurt Horvath >>>> 95 PT 42 >>>> 10AC >>>> - In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Pete Masterson >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It also depends on the installation/ floor plan in your coach. >> With >>>>> the "diagonal aisle" floor plan (with an aisle passing by the >>>>> bathroom (a side-bath type arrangement) , my Splende is located on >>>> the >>>>> centerline of the coach, in a full-height closet (linens go above >>>> the >>>>> washer). This also puts the outlet for the dryer vent located up >>>>> high, above the axle area, just in front of the differential. The >>>>> back of the washer is against the bedroom bulkhead. There is no >>>>> access from the back side. >>>>> >>>>> A search for the vent-exit from the outside proved fruitless. >> (The >>>>> dryer was almost totally ineffective, and I made the assumption >>>> that >>>>> the vent was blocked.) >>>>> >>>>> I eventually had to pull the Splende out of its closet.. >>>>> Unfortunately, the tight installation requires removing one of >> the >>>>> hinged doors to the washer/linen closet. Of course, BB used a >>>> piano >>>>> hinge with nearly a dozen screws -- at least they only did every >>>>> other screw. >>>>> >>>>> Only a relatively small amount of lint was found behind (and >>>> under) >>>>> the washer. I discovered that years of lint build up at the >> screen >>>>> (to keep vermin out) at the dryer vent exit had formed a thick >>>> (1/2 >>>>> inch) nearly solid seal -- it was not wonder the dryer didn't >> work! >>>>> >>>>> The hoses looked to be in good condition -- but replacing them >>>> with >>>>> steel-braid replacements would probably be a good precaution (why >>>>> didn't I think of that while I had the washer out...). The water >>>>> outlet is, as you said, simply a typical curved 'hook' from the >>>>> washer feeding into a standing pipe connected with the plumbing. >> I >>>>> suspect that the tube isn't sealed to allow venting which might >>>>> otherwise cause undesirable back pressure. We have not >> experienced >>>>> any unpleasant sewer odors from the washer vent line. Isn't there >>>> a >>>>> trap to block odors from the holding tank? (I don't recall seeing >>>> one >>>>> in my installation, but then I don't recall not seeing one >> either.) >>>>> >>>>> There was no sign (water spots, stains on unpainted wood, etc.) >>>> that >>>>> the outlet had ever overflowed. I do not have any moisture >>>> problems >>>>> in the washer/linen closet. >>>>> >>>>> After cleaning the vent tube and outlet thoroughly, I re- >> installed >>>>> the washer as it had previously been -- and now the dryer, while >>>>> hardly impressive, does dry clothes. Due to the relatively small >>>> size >>>>> of the washer and anemic drying performance of the dryer (but it >>>> does >>>>> work and is consistent with reports from others) we still do the >>>> bulk >>>>> of our laundry at laundromats, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Pete Masterson >>>>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 >>>>> aeonix1@ >>>>> On the road near Scranton, PA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the >>>> washer >>>>>> dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just >>>> finished >>>>>> vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up >>>>>> everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that. >> The >>>>>> drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no washer >>>> or >>>>>> collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into a 1 >>>> ½" >>>>>> black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found >> one >>>>>> source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another >>>> question. >>>>>> When >>>>>> was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the washer? >>>> Near >>>>>> as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years >>>> old. >>>>>> Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless >>>> braided >>>>>> hoses >>>>>> and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe. Now >> I >>>> need >>>>>> to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is >>>>>> OK,and to >>>>>> install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very dusty >> in >>>>>> there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on. >>>>>> Kurt Horvath >>>>>> 95 Pt 42 >>>>>> 10AC >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >>>> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > >----------- --------- --------- ------- > >Yahoo! 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