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Losing coolant
10-24-2008, 10:28
Post: #26
Losing coolant
On a puke recovery/refill system, fluids 'displace' and move the
spring in the cap to relieve the expanded fluids never more than
7psi. Air in the expansion tank compresses and packs energy. a quick
rush of expanded fluid could prove 300 psi???? while opening the 13#
valve unless the energy first blowes a hose or compramised liner
seal apart. I just think there is a larger issue here if there is
such large selection of such a small variable pressurecaps
avaliable. from 3 psi to 15 and some half units.????????????

I wonder if deaeration is a Bluebird term (maby one of the
engineeres had a dairy) or if de-airing would even be an issue (or
necessary realtime manitenance task of the cooling system)if the
system was all hydrolic with a true puke tank??????????


Greg94ptCa


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
wrote:
>
> My parts list calls the tank a "Deaeration" tank. Presumably
that's because any air bubbles in the system will tend to eventually
rise to the highest point and depart from the fluid.
>
> I would normally call it an expansion tank, as it has considerably
more room for fluid to expand into than the top of the radiator
normally would.
>
> As far as cap poundage goes, I would argue that the point in our
engines is not so much to do with raising boiling point, since the
coolant is supposed to stay well below even the boiling point of
water, but rather just to keep the system "closed" under normal
circumstances.
>
> On 10/24/2008 at 9:21 PM Gregory OConnor wrote:
>
> >I looked at my radiator fill point today (94/8v92)and concluded
that
> >it is no puke tank. when the buss chucks, it does not save the
> >fluids passed thru the cap in a tank. the
> >puke/chuck /ExpandedRadFluid goes out the neck of the cap holder
> >thru a small rubber line and down the streetside bumper onto the
> >ground.
> >
> >the Stainless steel tank atop the engine bay is simply a remote
> >extension of the radiator top tank!!!!! I am thinking the Detroit
> >design of 7 psi is for an application where the coach builder
> >actually uses a recovery tank.
> >
> >(My 525hp cummins has a 4.5 lb cap and recovery puke tank) I like
> >recovery systems with lower psi because there is no air in the
> >system like must be in the stainless steel tank to accomindate
the
> >expansion of r fluids?????
> >
> >there is a small line from the ss tank to the top of the actual
> >radiator who's purpose is to pass trapped air from rad to
> >sstank????? (what do you think Leroy)
> >we need a new name for the 'puke tank',,, "Remote radiator fill
> >tank"?
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
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Losing coolant - Don Bradner - 10-23-2008, 03:26
Losing coolant - Pete Masterson - 10-23-2008, 05:02
Losing coolant - Leroy Eckert - 10-23-2008, 05:14
Losing coolant - David Brady - 10-23-2008, 05:29
Losing coolant - Gregory OConnor - 10-23-2008, 06:09
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Losing coolant - Don Bradner - 10-23-2008, 14:05
Losing coolant - Rob Robinson - 10-23-2008, 14:07
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Losing coolant - Gregory OConnor - 10-23-2008, 15:20
Losing coolant - Don Bradner - 10-23-2008, 15:59
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Losing coolant - Pete Masterson - 10-24-2008, 09:30
Losing coolant - Don Bradner - 10-24-2008, 09:42
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Losing coolant - Fred Hulse - 10-24-2008, 12:09
Losing coolant - Don Bradner - 10-24-2008, 12:25
Losing coolant - David Brady - 10-24-2008, 13:08
Losing coolant - Leroy Eckert - 10-24-2008, 14:14
Losing coolant - Don Bradner - 10-24-2008, 14:25
Losing coolant - Leroy Eckert - 10-24-2008, 14:27
Losing coolant - Don Bradner - 10-24-2008, 14:56
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Losing coolant - Joyce and Richard Hayden - 10-24-2008, 15:34
Losing coolant - Leroy Eckert - 10-24-2008, 15:40
Losing coolant - Joyce and Richard Hayden - 10-24-2008, 16:18
Losing coolant - Gregory OConnor - 10-24-2008, 17:35
Losing coolant - Don Bradner - 10-25-2008, 09:18
Losing coolant - Joyce and Richard Hayden - 10-25-2008, 14:32
Losing coolant - Don Bradner - 10-25-2008, 14:55
Losing coolant - Rob Robinson - 10-25-2008, 15:01
Losing coolant - David Brady - 10-25-2008, 17:04
Losing coolant - Don Bradner - 10-26-2008, 03:56
Losing coolant - Leroy Eckert - 10-26-2008, 04:23
Losing coolant - jvredden@... - 10-26-2008, 04:27
Losing coolant - Don Bradner - 10-26-2008, 09:25
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Losing coolant - Kurt Horvath - 10-26-2008, 10:33
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Losing coolant - Kurt Horvath - 10-26-2008, 10:41
Losing coolant - ronmarabito2002 - 10-26-2008, 13:13
Losing coolant - Don Bradner - 10-29-2008, 03:46



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