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Serious question
10-28-2008, 15:47
Post: #10
Serious question
I don't understand the anecdotal evidence issue. Hearsay or expansion of a tale perhaps.

Differences between a PT and SP are significant in several respects. SP's have a 3208 CAT I believe although I do not own one. A PT generally has an 8v92. SP's have two axle's and PT's three. Most PT's have front entry although there are two or three with side entry. SP's have side entry as far as I know . I like side entry, that is one reason I like a Newell.
One needs to decide what weight and power they desire, how one intends to use it and floor plan. Maintenance cost also enter into the equation. Heat, gas or hydronic. Floor plans cannot be significantly different in 300 sq. ft. although Mike B has a vanity and sink in his center hall isle. Nice bus he has.
Take your time, drive them and decide from there. A full record accounting is quite good.
Leroy
Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA
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--- On Tue, 10/28/08, bubblerboy64 wrote:
From: bubblerboy64
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Serious question
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 10:02 PM



Brad, Thanks so much for that heads up which makes a lot of sense. I

will factor that into the equation which is getting very long and

complex :-) The debate continues about the PT vs SP but neither camp

has much in the way of more then anecdotal information. I am going

to drive several of each and pick the one I like the best. I will

look at the Newell but its more money then the others anyways so its

a dark horse in the race. Not say that it's totally a dead horse but

it's fading at the back nine.



John Heckman

central Pa

1973 FC

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> John,

> As a former Newell owner, I'll give you a little of my experience.

If you have trouble on the road, the easiest, most universal coaches

to be fixed on route are Marathon, MCI and Prevost because they have

so much in common with trucks and OTR buses. Blue Bird is probably

next with identifiable components you can often replace on the road.

Newell is more of a proprietary coach. If you have a mechanic with

experience with Newell coaches, you're fine at home. On the road, I

learned the hard way that most truck, bus and RV shops are clueless.

Just the air-leveling system on the Newell had three different air

tanks, automatic road, automatic park and manual park leveling

controls with I don't know how many valves. I got the last Bendix

air cruise control sending unit and the last air bags for that

model. Air operated doors, different suspension, different water and

climate control systems, they're all different from jsut about

everyone elses'. They're generally high-quality components, but I

think Blue Bird on average has the edge on interior fit, finish,

materials and quality. In my opinion, Newell's ease of handling and

drivability was superior to both Blue Birds I have owned.

> If you can make a pilgrimage to Miami, Oklahoma once a year for

regular maintenance, you could solve a lot of problems before they

happen from filters, lubed hidden parts, etc. The guys who remember

making your Newell would probably be the ones working on it. They

have a nice overnight park. They'll even let you borrow a car to go

into town. Last I knew, they were still family-owned and operated,

great people, great service, but like Mac users, you have to be a

sold-out Newell Kool-aid drinker to get the most out of your

coach. Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@.. .

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> As some of you may know I am looking to move up from my 1973 FC to

something a little newer. I am actively looking at PT's SP's and a

very nice Newell coach. My concern is my relationship to the BB

fraternity of owners if on the off chance I would buy a Newell

coach ? And I haven't seen the coach as yet so I can't say how

serious I am about the Newell but I would hate to be "tossed out"

or "unwelcome" in the BB community. I am serious. I hold this group

and the friends I have made in such regard that I would likely factor

out the Newell and not consider it at all if I was to be

excommunicated from the BB group functions. How's this handled and

what should I expect? This is a little premature but I want to know

so that I factor it into my decision making about what I would buy.

John Heckmancentral Pa 1973 FC at

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