Serious question

[Henry Jay Hannigan]

Bob:
Thanks ..I will run down to Western Union on my way to the poker
tourney at Venetian today....As a sponsor, you are in for half of my
tourney winnings today...If I do not place in the
money...........just pretend you gave the money to a politician!!

Regards,
Hank
90SP36






--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "robert nloomas"
<bbpt36@...> wrote:
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Jay Hannigan"
> wrote:
> Hi Hank Go down to western union it's on it way
> Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36
>
> >
> > Dear Forum members:
> > For those concerned about the ZF tranny........go outside and
watch
> > the garbage trucks zoom zoom..by...many of them have ZF trannys
> made
> > by a German company that makes all the trannys for BMW &
MERCEDES.
> I
> > understand the ZF got a bad rap in 1989 when BB initially
installed
> > them due to a VOLTAGE PROBLEM in connecting the ZF.. BB finally
> > corrected the electrical problem by making a better
> connection....had
> > nothing to do with the ZF tranny which in my opinion is
BULLETPROOF.
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hank Hannigan..(still in Vegas)...send money.....
> > 90SP36
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Leroy, Don't get me wrong good points have been made as to the
> pros
> > > and cons PT to SP. The problem really centers around the ZF
> > > transmission which some have reported as inferior others as
never
> > > having heard of one needing rebuilt. The 3208 is said to be
weak
> > and
> > > a "throw away" by the PT crowd. The owners report few problems
> and
> > > criticize the detroits for slobbering oil and poor fuel
economy.
> No
> > > one has dates, times, or places to support any of this to the
> best
> > of
> > > my knowledge so I must assume it is anecdotal, but hearsay
might
> be
> > a
> > > better word, Very similar to the diesel truck forms. It was
> > > concluded that the best truck hands down was the Ford truck
with
> a
> > > Dodge (cummins) motor with the Chevy (allison) transmission.
> Sorta
> > > how I feel personally at this point about the buses. I am
going
> to
> > > find the one I like best. I will consider everything which as
> been
> > > said but I will in the end decide. As stated having seen the SP
I
> > am
> > > impressed it's so much more then my ole FC. I two weeks I'll be
> > able
> > > to see touch and experience several PT's so perhaps my position
> > will
> > > change. At this point I am not worried. I feel pretty certain
I
> > > could be happy with either.
> > > John Heckman
> > > central Pa
> > > 1973 FC
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand the anecdotal evidence issue. Hearsay or
> > > expansion of a tale perhaps.
> > > >
> > > > Differences between a PT and SP are significant in several
> > > respects. SP's have a 3208 CAT I believe although I do not own
> one.
> > A
> > > PT generally has an 8v92. SP's have two axle's and PT's three.
> Most
> > > PT's have front entry although there are two or three with side
> > > entry. SP's have side entry as far as I know . I like side
entry,
> > > that is one reason I like a Newell.
> > > > One needs to decide what weight and power they desire, how
one
> > > intends to use it and floor plan. Maintenance cost also enter
> into
> > > the equation. Heat, gas or hydronic. Floor plans cannot be
> > > significantly different in 300 sq. ft. although Mike B has a
> vanity
> > > and sink in his center hall isle. Nice bus he has.
> > > > Take your time, drive them and decide from there. A full
record
> > > accounting is quite good.
> > > > Leroy Eckert
> > > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> > > > Dahlonega, GA
> > > > Royale Conversion
> > > >
> > > > --- On Tue, 10/28/08, bubblerboy64 wrote:
> > > > From: bubblerboy64
> > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Serious question
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 10:02 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brad, Thanks so much for that heads up which
makes
> a
> > > lot of sense. I
> > > >
> > > > will factor that into the equation which is getting very long
> and
> > > >
> > > > complex :-) The debate continues about the PT vs SP but
> neither
> > > camp
> > > >
> > > > has much in the way of more then anecdotal information. I am
> > going
> > > >
> > > > to drive several of each and pick the one I like the best. I
> will
> > > >
> > > > look at the Newell but its more money then the others anyways
> so
> > > its
> > > >
> > > > a dark horse in the race. Not say that it's totally a dead
> horse
> > > but
> > > >
> > > > it's fading at the back nine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John Heckman
> > > >
> > > > central Pa
> > > >
> > > > 1973 FC
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > > As a former Newell owner, I'll give you a little of my
> > > experience.
> > > >
> > > > If you have trouble on the road, the easiest, most universal
> > > coaches
> > > >
> > > > to be fixed on route are Marathon, MCI and Prevost because
they
> > > have
> > > >
> > > > so much in common with trucks and OTR buses. Blue Bird is
> > probably
> > > >
> > > > next with identifiable components you can often replace on
the
> > > road.
> > > >
> > > > Newell is more of a proprietary coach. If you have a
mechanic
> > with
> > > >
> > > > experience with Newell coaches, you're fine at home. On the
> > road,
> > > I
> > > >
> > > > learned the hard way that most truck, bus and RV shops are
> > > clueless.
> > > >
> > > > Just the air-leveling system on the Newell had three
different
> > air
> > > >
> > > > tanks, automatic road, automatic park and manual park
leveling
> > > >
> > > > controls with I don't know how many valves. I got the last
> > Bendix
> > > >
> > > > air cruise control sending unit and the last air bags for
that
> > > >
> > > > model. Air operated doors, different suspension, different
> water
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > climate control systems, they're all different from jsut
about
> > > >
> > > > everyone elses'. They're generally high-quality components,
but
> I
> > > >
> > > > think Blue Bird on average has the edge on interior fit,
> finish,
> > > >
> > > > materials and quality. In my opinion, Newell's ease of
> handling
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > drivability was superior to both Blue Birds I have owned.
> > > >
> > > > > If you can make a pilgrimage to Miami, Oklahoma once a year
> for
> > > >
> > > > regular maintenance, you could solve a lot of problems before
> > they
> > > >
> > > > happen from filters, lubed hidden parts, etc. The guys who
> > > remember
> > > >
> > > > making your Newell would probably be the ones working on it.
> > They
> > > >
> > > > have a nice overnight park. They'll even let you borrow a
car
> to
> > > go
> > > >
> > > > into town. Last I knew, they were still family-owned and
> > operated,
> > > >
> > > > great people, great service, but like Mac users, you have to
be
> a
> > > >
> > > > sold-out Newell Kool-aid drinker to get the most out of your
> > > >
> > > > coach. Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@ .
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ ...: jehdds@: Tue, 28 Oct 2008
14:48:27
> > > >
> > > > +0000Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Serious question
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > As some of you may know I am looking to move up from my
1973
> FC
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > something a little newer. I am actively looking at PT's SP's
> and
> > a
> > > >
> > > > very nice Newell coach. My concern is my relationship to the
BB
> > > >
> > > > fraternity of owners if on the off chance I would buy a
Newell
> > > >
> > > > coach ? And I haven't seen the coach as yet so I can't say
how
> > > >
> > > > serious I am about the Newell but I would hate to be "tossed
> out"
> > > >
> > > > or "unwelcome" in the BB community. I am serious. I hold this
> > group
> > > >
> > > > and the friends I have made in such regard that I would
likely
> > > factor
> > > >
> > > > out the Newell and not consider it at all if I was to be
> > > >
> > > > excommunicated from the BB group functions. How's this
handled
> > and
> > > >
> > > > what should I expect? This is a little premature but I want
to
> > know
> > > >
> > > > so that I factor it into my decision making about what I
would
> > buy.
> > > >
> > > > John Heckmancentral Pa 1973 FC at
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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