RIV Report?

[Gregory OConnor]

Macy, the BlueBirder called you a liar. He must have been upset
enough to post and do that, maybe not. thats why I asked him to
post the 'promise not granted'. Maybe he just under stood a delay of
action or one other tactical responce as an offer to satify his
claim. I dont think you owe me 'your perspective' . If his
warrenty issue is lagitamate and someone has the obligation to do
the repair, would be curious to know where you stand on that? Maybe
you could help him go after the builder of his bus??

Lloyd now looks like he should be shamefull of asking for repairs.
His take on the riv thing I shure was tainted by his overall feeling
so that ws an easy responce to address. Bus warrenty was never
addressed. I bet he never gets a derictive other than continued
delay. I too think he should move on, but for different reasons. I
on the otherhand, still look the same.

Just yesterday Tim and I ended a two year battle to keep Sarah
safe. Some forum members know Sara. She is the 83 year old lady
that I post 'washes our bus'. She retired with over $50,000 per the
year income but could not be protected from her user kids. At times
forced to live rent free in one of our rentals. we fought fought and
fought with local and state agencies to help. I ended up sitting
on my hands back of police cars 5 times, spent thousands of dollars
and was even shot at. Always kept safe and healthy, no one
could/would help. All I ever got was 'tactical continued delay'. I
cried when they took the cuffs off the fith time because I knew my
promise to give up the fight in exchange for the removal was only
legal but 'so not right'. every one has a story

Greg94ptCa


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mneshati2"
wrote:

>
> Dear Greg, don't know you other than this forum, don't believe I
have ever knowingly did
> you wrong, I know I have never wished you ill or even crossed
paths with you. I am at a
> loss as to how you can be so hateful towards a person you don't
know and a company
> whose business you don't know.
>
> your constant attacks, nasty words, uninformed assumptions and
hateful rehtoric is just
> astonishing. You have distain for a company that has bought a
brand to preserve and
> build on, poured millions into it, and instantly side with a Blue
Birder simply by reading his
> version of a disagreement, never asked our perspective, but
clearly by suggesting Mr.
> Chaffin should post his "promise not granted" is indication you
have no idea what the
> issue is really about, but you assume Mr. Chaffin is right and
once again blindly attack me
> and CCW.
>
> Sorry, not my style man, I can't hate someone I don't even know,
can't wish ill on someone
> who has never hurt me, can't really even wish ill on those that do
try to hurt me.
>
> I wish you peace man, don't know what is eating you but this type
of hate and attempts to
> hurt and discredit... I don't understand, another of your emails
you slam us as "repowering
> crap"
>
> why don't you take the time to come by and have a cup of coffee,
look at our business,
> meet our staff, our technicians, hard working good people trying
to make a living as you
> lash out at their company and try to harm it, look in their eyes
and see if they deserve your
> hate and disdain....
>
> Even in these trying economic times, life is a blessing man, each
day we wake up is a gift
> from the Good Lord, we can only be sure of the moment we are in,
we could be gone in an
> instant and we never ever know when that instant is. Do you really
want the fabric of your
> life to be filled with hateful words and ill wishes towards
others? What if by some small
> chance you are wrong about me? About CCW and our motives? And yet
you tarnished us
> with your words, your hatefulness, your ill wishes? Are you really
ok with that?
>
> Peace Man, Life is too short for hate, I dont have time for it. I
wish you peace, prosperity,
> good fortune, laughter and Good Health.
>
> Come see me someday,
> Macy
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"

> wrote:
> >
> > Dear John, your post sounds like something written by the public
> > relations department of ccw. I think we should gang up on Macy
and
> > see to it that Lloyd gets some satisfaction or learns that his
> > expectations are not attainable for what ever reason. if you
read
> > Lloyds post and reread your reply, it sounds like more of the
same
> > excuse rederic he has been getting. People vent to seek action
and
> > assistance,its not always a yoga exersize. Maybe Llyod could
post
> > the promise not granted.
> >
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94ptRomolandCa
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, jvredden@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Lloyd,
> > >
> > >
> > > Most every point you made is valid. CCW has had issues
supporting
> > the
> > > existing coaches. That said ...they are trying. It's far
better
> > than having no
> > > one pick up BB.
> > >
> > >
> > > Not trying to stir up a hornet's nest but......I'm glad you
got
> > that off
> > > your chest and hope you feel better!
> > > I too was at the Branson RITV. It was nice but, like you
stated,
> > it was not
> > > like other RITV's. Rick Clayton from BB was there and had
tried
> > to organize
> > > the event. I asked him why the question answer sessions and
> > technical
> > > seminars were not available. He indicated to me that he was
not
> > aware that RITV's
> > > in the past had offered them. He was in effect offering a
rally
> > as he
> > > understood rallys to be. I do not think he understood the
unique
> > offerings of
> > > RITV of the past and the expectations of Bluebirders. Please
> > send him your
> > > suggestions at BB. He seemed quite open to what I
suggested.
> > Given that he had
> > > no concept of past RITV, I think he did ok. It was different
and
> > not like
> > > other RITVs, but if you went to the Branson RITV expecting to
see
> > the same as
> > > past RITVs, you might question if you were realistic in your
> > expectations.
> > > The RATS organization
> > > (Wanderlodgeownersforum.com) moderated by Randy, John, and Rob
is
> > a great
> > > source of info on all BB. They have a get together a couple
times
> > a year.
> > > Very loosely structured organization and that's the way they
want
> > to keep it.
> > > However, you will not find a kinder, more helpful group of
> > folks. Try them
> > > out.
> > >
> > >
> > > My thought is that CCW needed an east coast facility and BB
mfg
> > plant
> > > offered that for them. They state that CCW is #1 in NG
> > conversion of buses. I
> > > would think their market position is as good as any. I don't
> > think they are
> > > expecting to make money on the new Wanderlodge initially. I
> > think they feel a
> > > market continues to exist for high end coaches ( remember, in
> > hard economic
> > > times, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer...why am I
> > always on the
> > > losing end?) I am glad they are trying to deliver a new
product
> > in a market
> > > that is not conducive to any new products. Remember just this
> > year Mfg,
> > > National, See Ya, and Western RV ( Alpine coach) went out of
> > business. At least, we
> > > are in a better position than those coach owners.
> > >
> > > I think other Bluebirders need our help and support. I think
CCW
> > needs it
> > > as well. Your points are well taken...now let's focus on the
> > positive. You
> > > have a wonderful coach. You are blessed to be able to have
it.
> > Enjoy the
> > > process of trying to keep it top notch and run the wheels off
of
> > it.
> > >
> > >
> > > john redden
> > > 91 PT-40
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