Federal smog laws GregO'Connor

[timvasqz]

Curt, there are more than 8 new programs and requirements. Nov 11
CARB meeting is only one more to make 9. No diesel engine , even a
lawn tractor is exempt from excessive smoking now. Motorhomes may
be exempt from Mandated Testing programs but not emissions and road
side review.


I can guarantee that a puff of smoke from a motorhome or pickup
truck is going to send a pissed off trucker to the 5 digit #smog (in
California from most cell phones) reporting line.

the retrofit filter ccw has is between $10,000 and 20,000 per
schoolbus (or who ever did the Alhambra busses charged that). The
filter only buys time as some of the programs have other
requirements. The Federal emissions programs are only accelerated
in California and comming to a state near FortValley soon. I wish
CCW was public, been just dollar cost averaging last years picks.
would be nice to bet on a winner.

I posted Links earlier but my association got Tim moderated and I
guess my post didnt pass, maybe this one will be held up also. Tim
shouldnt leave his Yahoo account signed on.
GregoryO'Connor of Tim$Greg
94ptCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
wrote:
>
> Don,
>
> I read the same information. Our old coaches are exempt.
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Don Bradner wrote:
>
> > Chris, because of your position you should know more about
this than any
> > of us, but as far as I can tell, the below is FUD. Please refer
to an exact
> > cite, not a massive website, if you know differently.
> >
> > What I find is that the ARB is meeting next week, possibly to
adopt new
> > regulations which can be found at
> > http://www.arb.ca.gov/regact/2008/truckbus08/appa.pdf
> >
> > Pertinent info:
> >
> > "Adopt new section 2025, in title 13, article 4.5, chapter 1,
California
> > Code of Regulations
> > (CCR) to read as follows: (Note that the entire text of section
2025 set
> > forth below is
> > new language proposed to be added to the California Code of
Regulations.)
> > Section 2025. Regulation to Reduce Emissions of Diesel
Particulate Matter,
> > Oxides of Nitrogen and Other Criteria Pollutants, and Greenhouse
> > Gases from In-Use Heavy-Duty Diesel-Fueled Vehicles"
> >
> > "© Exemptions
> > This regulation does not apply to:"
> >
> > "(11) Motor homes for non-commercial private use."
> >
> > Please, please tell me how I am misreading this.
> >
> >
> > On 12/7/2008 at 1:58 PM Chris Fogleman wrote:
> >
> > >Hello BB family, regarding the emission laws rthere are
compliance date
> > >for
> > >various engine years , And also if the engines cant meet the
compliance
> > >you will need to repower are scrap , This all started with the
federal
> > >government. Makeing california clean up the Air quality and if
California
> > >cant Comply.The Federal Government will hold funding. That
California
> > needs
> > >for Road work and etc,This is why Arnold the Governor and AQMD
and all the
> > >other agencies have such a push on getting the Air cleaned up.
Go to
> > >this
> > >site for more info http://WWW.arb.ca.gov
> > >
> > >Chris E. Fogleman
> > >
> > >Complete Coach Works
> > >
> > >Alternative Fuel Sales Manager
> > >
> > >Cell: (951) 836-6520
> > >
> > >http://www.thelegacyreturns.com <http://www.thelegacyreturns.com/>
> > >
> > >cfogleman@...
> > >
> > >cfogleman@...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > >From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>
> > >[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>]
> > On Behalf Of Don Bradner
> > >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 1:16 PM
> > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Federal smog laws GregO'Connor
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I know, and Greg is certainly correct when he says that
California is
> > >employing such standards quicker than Federal, but the question
is about
> > >something in Federal (or California, for that matter) rules
that will make
> > >us comply with smog rules (which would mean repowering, or
junking).
> > >
> > >On 12/7/2008 at 8:28 AM Pete Masterson wrote:
> > >
> > >>FWIW, ULSD is the only diesel sold in CA for the last couple
of years...
> > >>
> > >>Pete Masterson
> > >>'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > >>aeonix1@mac. >
com
> > >>On the road at Newberry Springs, CA
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Dec 7, 2008, at 5:31 AM, Don Bradner wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Greg, can you provide a cite for this? I spent extensive
time with
> > >>> Google and could not come up with any federal requirements
that did
> > >>> not involve one of the following:
> > >>>
> > >>> New engines
> > >>> ULSD fuel
> > >>>
> > >>> Neither of those would adversely affect my coach, so I would
like
> > >>> to know if you have some hard-to-find information concerning
> > >>> federal rules that would, in fact, affect vintage stuff?
> > >>>
> > >>> Don Bradner
> > >>> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> > >>> Posting today by satellite from Gladewater, TX
> > >>> My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1
> > >>>
> > >>> On 12/6/2008 at 5:03 PM timvasqz wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Diesel
> > >>>> motorhomes with "private registration" are exempt from many
CA smog
> > >>>> requirements but will be hit blind sighted when fed
regulations take
> > >>>> hold.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ------------------------------------
> > >>>
> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> --
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
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