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1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve.
06-19-2009, 16:52
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1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve.
If it is a fuel problem it is not air, sounds like a restriction with supply.
the amount of time necessary to restart is recovery of the vacumn created when
the pump starved????

Best way to check fuel supply is to replace the filter. I understand there is
also a screen at the Kubota lift pump. if it still shuts down I would then try
and replace the supply of fuel with that from a temporary source. this will
prove issue with the fuel line.
One other test of the lift pump and supply line would be to hotwire the pump
with a line between the electric pump and injector pump removed.
Greg ofTim&Greg
94ptca

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ron Thompson wrote:
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> Hi J C,
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> Yes, I know about the squirell cage cooling fan and the radiator that it pulls
the air through. I checked it and it was running.
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> The generator if it has set over night will start and run for about 5 to 10
mins and the AC voltage indicators are at full voltage and the amp guages are
indicating what they should. But it shuts down after it has (I Think) run out of
fuel. I have not had a chance to dig into what the problem is. I am on the
road of course and have appointments that I must meet so it is keeping me from
working on it.
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> I know where the control circuits are behind the generator and I checked all
the fuses, breaker, switches etc. and they seem to be ok.
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> The overhead Pilot panel guages indicate cool temperature, good oil pressure,
etc. so getting hot and shutting down is not a problem.
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> It was a tad low on coolant and I topped that off and checked for leaks and
found none.
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> So that is the status now. I just checked it again today and same old
problem. It shut down. It won't start up again either till you wait a good
30mins to an hour. It sure sounds like a fuel supply problem to me.
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> Later.
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> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
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> From: jcmace59
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve.
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 3:43 PM
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driver's side bay start when you start the generator? If not, the geeny will
overheat and shut itself off. What are your gauges (above your head as driver)
telling you as it runs and then shuts down? If the fan does NOT come on, run
the genny out (there's a switch in the same front bay) and look for a button
circuit breaker and a switch on a box at the back of the genset. Mine are
located on the side of this box, but I've heard of others on the back of this
box. Reset the breaker(s) and flip the switch. Hopefully the fan will now run.
Hope this helps. Just as an aside, if your fuel is below about 1/4 tank, the
genny won't run as a safety to prevent you from running out of fuel by using the
generator.
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info you need on one of the main Bird forums out there. They have saved me a
TON of headaches!
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stripped of all the schematics and critical technical information. Probably by
the technicians where it was located on consignment when i purchased it. I
won't mention the name of the place.
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went a long way to helping with that. I still run into things though like this
LPG thing that I can't find information on. I searched the forum files too and
there were a couple of items there but not any that would help with my problem.
Its a night mare, especially when you are out here on the road in Las Cruces,
NM.
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BB do I see at their place. All of the RV's in theire service parking lot are
of the 5th wheel type. I did go over there and buy some dump line parts though.
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generator won't run more than 5 mins at a time. I think that the fuel supply
circuit may have lost its prime, or the fuel filter is prohibiting the flow of
fuel and only lets a small amount gradually seep through which explains the
running for 5 mins. But thats another problem.
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matching rim and tire. I lost it on the road in Texas. Obliterated the tire and
destroyed an expensive aluminum rim.
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relate to your frustration. When i bought my bird last year, I spent almost a
week going through the Bird Box looking at every scrap of paper, manuals etc. I
was left with nothing but confusion about everything and was totally ignorant.
In spite of this, I drove the beast from Tuscon, AZ to Oneonta, Alabama about
2,000 miles. Scarey, when I think about it.
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coach, just aft and street side of the front storage bulkhead. It would seem to
me there is a removable plate on the wall just aft of the front pass-through
compartment. That plate should be removable and the main cut-off valve should be
behind it.
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it has to be accessable somehow. I still believe your main manual valve is
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around, over, under and adjacent to every switch, toggle, handle etc. I even
placed lables and warnings all over my dash area.
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and the controls for the same. Someone wisely said, these machimes will still be
around after some (if not most of us)are gone. We are therefore stewards and we
should make sure those who come after us don't have the same problems we have.
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1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-15-2009, 04:30
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Al Scudder - 06-15-2009, 04:49
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-15-2009, 05:06
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Wallace Craig - 06-15-2009, 06:18
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Leroy A. Eckert - 06-15-2009, 07:20
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - tommy.rountree - 06-15-2009, 13:08
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Al Scudder - 06-16-2009, 02:05
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - pgchd - 06-16-2009, 04:09
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - jcmace59 - 06-16-2009, 07:37
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-17-2009, 08:55
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-17-2009, 09:04
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-17-2009, 09:09
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-17-2009, 09:48
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Tom McCarthy - 06-17-2009, 10:58
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - tommy.rountree - 06-17-2009, 12:03
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-17-2009, 14:53
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-17-2009, 15:08
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - tommy.rountree - 06-17-2009, 22:09
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ernie Ekberg - 06-18-2009, 00:08
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-18-2009, 00:29
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - tommy.rountree - 06-18-2009, 00:48
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-18-2009, 01:26
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - tommy.rountree - 06-18-2009, 02:03
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-18-2009, 02:17
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-18-2009, 02:20
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - tommy.rountree - 06-18-2009, 03:15
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-18-2009, 04:14
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-18-2009, 04:21
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ernie Ekberg - 06-18-2009, 04:58
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - timvasqz - 06-18-2009, 19:15
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-19-2009, 01:22
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - jqrjr@... - 06-19-2009, 08:17
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - jcmace59 - 06-19-2009, 08:43
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Al Scudder - 06-19-2009, 11:23
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-19-2009, 11:48
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-19-2009, 11:51
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Rick Davis - 06-19-2009, 13:19
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - timvasqz - 06-19-2009, 16:33
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - timvasqz - 06-19-2009 16:52
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - timvasqz - 06-19-2009, 17:00
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-20-2009, 00:50
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Wayne Kotila - 06-20-2009, 18:33
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - bbwlwb88 - 06-21-2009, 00:44
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-21-2009, 01:08
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-21-2009, 01:15
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-21-2009, 01:19
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - jcmace59 - 06-21-2009, 04:57
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Ron Thompson - 06-21-2009, 05:13
1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. - Wayne Kotila - 06-21-2009, 15:14



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