1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve.

[Ron Thompson]

Royal, The symptoms you describe are exactly whats happening here. I will send Power Tech an email and see what they have to say about a fix. Thanks very much for that information. It is very possible that what you say is right. Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 1995 WLWB 42' (cockyfox@...) --- On Sun, 6/21/09, bbwlwb88 wrote: From: bbwlwb88 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 7:44 AM Ron, I haven't read through all the responses you've received but I did see where someone mentioned the circuit breaker box on the gen set. I believe you probably have a Power Tech generator like I have in my 97 43' WL. In looking through the service work info that came with this coach I noticed that it had prior problems with the gen set shutting down. The problem was that this box was getting too hot internally from the gen set engine heat. I believe Power Tech is aware of this and has a fix which may resolve the problem. You can call them at 800-760-2777. They also can be contacted by email at Powertech@powertech -gen.com but I have found they respond better to a direct phone call. Royal Washburn --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Ron Thompson wrote: > > Yes I believe you are right that it is a restriction problem. That was my determination. Just got to get to a place where I can work on it. > > Thanks for the ideas. > > Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. > > 1995 WLWB 42' > > (cockyfox@.. .) > > --- On Fri, 6/19/09, timvasqz wrote: > > From: timvasqz > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 11:52 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it is a fuel problem it is not air, sounds like a restriction with supply. the amount of time necessary to restart is recovery of the vacumn created when the pump starved???? > > > > Best way to check fuel supply is to replace the filter. I understand there is also a screen at the Kubota lift pump. if it still shuts down I would then try and replace the supply of fuel with that from a temporary source. this will prove issue with the fuel line. > > One other test of the lift pump and supply line would be to hotwire the pump with a line between the electric pump and injector pump removed. > > Greg ofTim&Greg > > 94ptca > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Ron Thompson wrote: > > > > > > Hi J C, > > > > > > Yes, I know about the squirell cage cooling fan and the radiator that it pulls the air through. I checked it and it was running. > > > > > > The generator if it has set over night will start and run for about 5 to 10 mins and the AC voltage indicators are at full voltage and the amp guages are indicating what they should. But it shuts down after it has (I Think) run out of fuel. I have not had a chance to dig into what the problem is. I am on the road of course and have appointments that I must meet so it is keeping me from working on it. > > > > > > I know where the control circuits are behind the generator and I checked all the fuses, breaker, switches etc. and they seem to be ok. > > > > > > The overhead Pilot panel guages indicate cool temperature, good oil pressure, etc. so getting hot and shutting down is not a problem. > > > > > > It was a tad low on coolant and I topped that off and checked for leaks and found none. > > > > > > So that is the status now. I just checked it again today and same old problem. It shut down. It won't start up again either till you wait a good 30mins to an hour. It sure sounds like a fuel supply problem to me. > > > > > > Later. > > > > > > Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. > > > > > > 1995 WLWB 42' > > > > > > (cockyfox@ .) > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/19/09, jcmace59 wrote: > > > > > > From: jcmace59 > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > > > Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 3:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ron, > > > > > > To address your generator situation: does the fan located in the very front driver's side bay start when you start the generator? If not, the geeny will overheat and shut itself off. What are your gauges (above your head as driver) telling you as it runs and then shuts down? If the fan does NOT come on, run the genny out (there's a switch in the same front bay) and look for a button circuit breaker and a switch on a box at the back of the genset. Mine are located on the side of this box, but I've heard of others on the back of this box. Reset the breaker(s) and flip the switch. Hopefully the fan will now run. Hope this helps. Just as an aside, if your fuel is below about 1/4 tank, the genny won't run as a safety to prevent you from running out of fuel by using the generator. > > > > > > > > > > > > As our learned Tommy has already indicated, you will often find most of the info you need on one of the main Bird forums out there. They have saved me a TON of headaches! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Ron Thompson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tommy, > > > > > > > Thanks, its encouraging to talk with someone who has the same frustrations that I have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the problems that I had with this coach is the Bird Box had been stripped of all the schematics and critical technical information. Probably by the technicians where it was located on consignment when i purchased it. I won't mention the name of the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the help of Kurt Horvath's disc that he made available to everyone sure went a long way to helping with that. I still run into things though like this LPG thing that I can't find information on. I searched the forum files too and there were a couple of items there but not any that would help with my problem. Its a night mare, especially when you are out here on the road in Las Cruces, NM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is an RV service place right next door to the park I am in but not one BB do I see at their place. All of the RV's in theire service parking lot are of the 5th wheel type. I did go over there and buy some dump line parts though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As long as I am on shore power I am in good shape. But when on the road my generator won't run more than 5 mins at a time. I think that the fuel supply circuit may have lost its prime, or the fuel filter is prohibiting the flow of fuel and only lets a small amount gradually seep through which explains the running for 5 mins. But thats another problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This morning I have to find a Jeep dealer where I can buy another aluminum matching rim and tire. I lost it on the road in Texas. Obliterated the tire and destroyed an expensive aluminum rim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, I shall prevail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1995 WLWB 42' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (cockyfox@ .) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 6/18/09, tommy.rountree wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: tommy.rountree > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1995 WLWB 42, LPG GAS Main Shut off Valve. > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 7:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ron: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll see if I can locate a schematic of the LP system for your bird. I can relate to your frustration. When i bought my bird last year, I spent almost a week going through the Bird Box looking at every scrap of paper, manuals etc. I was left with nothing but confusion about everything and was totally ignorant. In spite of this, I drove the beast from Tuscon, AZ to Oneonta, Alabama about 2,000 miles. Scarey, when I think about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking at my frame schematics, the LP tank should be in the center of the coach, just aft and street side of the front storage bulkhead. It would seem to me there is a removable plate on the wall just aft of the front pass-through compartment. That plate should be removable and the main cut-off valve should be behind it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I understand the law, the government mandates a manual cut off valve and it has to be accessable somehow. I still believe your main manual valve is closed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FYI, as I began to learn about my coach, I would make lables and put them around, over, under and adjacent to every switch, toggle, handle etc. I even placed lables and warnings all over my dash area. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That way, if I'm not available anyone would know where the components are and the controls for the same. Someone wisely said, these machimes will still be around after some (if not most of us)are gone. We are therefore stewards and we should make sure those who come after us don't have the same problems we have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I still have one switch on the dash, which is an accessory switch, but no one has a clue as to what it is for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the wonderfully frustrating, yet exciting world of Blue Birds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll keep looking to see if I can find your LP schematic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safe travels! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tommy > > > > > > > > > > >