Goodyear tires - BAD

[Kurt Horvath]

Goodyear's reputation for quality tires has always been greater than their
perceived quality in my opinion. I've had them on two 1 ton trucks with very
poor service and just this week have changed out all the Goodyear Marathons on
my 24' car trailer, none of which are older than 2 years old and none with more
than 3000 miles on them and they are in poor condition to say the least. I've
replaced 1 Goodyear Marathon every trip with the trailer in the past 5 years
with no help from Goodyear, twice the tires did not make it through the first
days drive! The alignment is good as well as the brake system, this occurs no
matter which tow vehicle I've used, bus or pick up. Replacing them with Kumho,
good customer ratings and 120% cheaper than the Michelin Ribs I wanted.

After reading these posts I would say the tires are at fault, incorrect air
pressure may have played a part but the low mileage speaks volumes. I do have 1
Goodyear G149 on my coach, I had to have a tire and it's all that was available
at the time. It's on my tag so I'm not to concerned with its performance, least
weight per tire on my coach, but it does run hotter than my other tires
according to the infrared thermometer, I have not keep any records but it will
almost always run 20 to 40 degrees hotter than my other tires.

I'd park my bus in the dealers drive way until I got satisfaction. Google
Goodyear Marathon tires and read all the problems, If the tires we use on our
coaches is 1/10 th... the negative feedback these tires have I think you could
get some sort of deal from them. My $00.02
Look at the video Gregg posted from Michelin, I could save your life.
http://www.rainbowrv.com/rv-talk/


Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, RWW wrote:
>
> I agree we do not want to mislead anyone to believing inflating to
> sidewall listed pressure as a way to prevent tire issues.
>
> However, in the case of the original poster asking if anyone has had
> problems with tred coming off Goodyear tires with only 4,000 miles, I
> think the respones drifted to investigating the cause of the failures
> as potentially due to tire over inflation, when IMO, the cause is
> defective Goodyear tires. Point being that even if the poster had
> his tires at the max sidewall listed pressure (which I doubt) there is
> no way the tires should have the tred coming off at 4,000 miles.
>
> Roger Webb
> 91WL
> Cedar Rapids, IA -- Happy July 4th to all. Happy birthday USA!!
>
>
> RWW
>
> On Jul 4, 2009, at 12:02 PM, "Don Bradner"
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I understand your point. Mine was not aimed at assessing blame, but
> > rather finding actual causes of a failure, and most likely course to
> > follow to avoid such failure.
> >
> > I would much rather not have a tire failure than I would to have a
> > failure and be able to make a claim!
> >
> > It appears that gross over-inflation can be and is a cause for
> > failure, whether or not the manufacturer would use that as a cause
> > for denial or not.
> >
> > There is no need to fine-tune the pressure in the way you are
> > suggesting. With 12R or 315/80 tires the difference of one notch in
> > the 5psi-increment table is some 2000 lbs of total weight on 6
> > tires! If a position is supposed to have 90 lbs when you are fully
> > loaded and 85 when you are nearly empty that is not going to matter.
> > Running that same tire at 120 or 130 is an entirely different matter.
> >
> > I've stayed in this conversation because I know from prior talk that
> > there are those who truly believe they are doing something good by
> > running max sidewall pressure.
> >
> > I do not believe that you can eliminate the possibility of tire
> > failure, but I do believe you can minimize such possibilities.
> >
> > On 7/4/2009 at 7:22 AM RWW wrote:
> >
> > >My question should have been ,,, even if the owner had the tires at
> > >the maximum pressure marked on the sidewall; even if it was not the
> > >'proper / correct' pressure for the axle weight - is the tire 'over
> > >inflated' for purposes of claiming cause and fault of the tire
> > >failure? Keeping in mind the tires had only 4,000 miles.
> > ...
> > >If over inflated is defined as above the pressure recommeded on the
> > >axle weight charts, but below the max stamped on the sidewall, we all
> > >have a problem, as we consume our freshwater and fuel; drop off
> > >passengers, consume supplies and unhook trailers, etc. That can add
> > up
> > >to a lot of weight being taken off the axles, which would put our
> > tire
> > >pressures above the pressure recommended by the tire charts.
> >
> >
>