Goodyear tires - BAD

[Dorn Hetzel]

I am happy that the previous owner of my 77FC35 swapped rims to
accomodate standard 11R22.5 truck tires

On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
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> Goodyear's reputation for quality tires has always been greater than their
> perceived quality in my opinion. I've had them on two 1 ton trucks with very
> poor service and just this week have changed out all the Goodyear Marathons
> on my 24' car trailer, none of which are older than 2 years old and none
> with more than 3000 miles on them and they are in poor condition to say the
> least. I've replaced 1 Goodyear Marathon every trip with the trailer in the
> past 5 years with no help from Goodyear, twice the tires did not make it
> through the first days drive! The alignment is good as well as the brake
> system, this occurs no matter which tow vehicle I've used, bus or pick up.
> Replacing them with Kumho, good customer ratings and 120% cheaper than the
> Michelin Ribs I wanted.
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> After reading these posts I would say the tires are at fault, incorrect air
> pressure may have played a part but the low mileage speaks volumes. I do
> have 1 Goodyear G149 on my coach, I had to have a tire and it's all that was
> available at the time. It's on my tag so I'm not to concerned with its
> performance, least weight per tire on my coach, but it does run hotter than
> my other tires according to the infrared thermometer, I have not keep any
> records but it will almost always run 20 to 40 degrees hotter than my other
> tires.
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> I'd park my bus in the dealers drive way until I got satisfaction. Google
> Goodyear Marathon tires and read all the problems, If the tires we use on
> our coaches is 1/10 th... the negative feedback these tires have I think you
> could get some sort of deal from them. My $00.02
> Look at the video Gregg posted from Michelin, I could save your life.
> http://www.rainbowrv.com/rv-talk/
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> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT 42
> 10AC
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> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, RWW wrote:
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>> I agree we do not want to mislead anyone to believing inflating to
>> sidewall listed pressure as a way to prevent tire issues.
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>> However, in the case of the original poster asking if anyone has had
>> problems with tred coming off Goodyear tires with only 4,000 miles, I
>> think the respones drifted to investigating the cause of the failures
>> as potentially due to tire over inflation, when IMO, the cause is
>> defective Goodyear tires. Point being that even if the poster had
>> his tires at the max sidewall listed pressure (which I doubt) there is
>> no way the tires should have the tred coming off at 4,000 miles.
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>> Roger Webb
>> 91WL
>> Cedar Rapids, IA -- Happy July 4th to all. Happy birthday USA!!
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>> RWW
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>> On Jul 4, 2009, at 12:02 PM, "Don Bradner"
>> wrote:
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>> > I understand your point. Mine was not aimed at assessing blame, but
>> > rather finding actual causes of a failure, and most likely course to
>> > follow to avoid such failure.
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>> > I would much rather not have a tire failure than I would to have a
>> > failure and be able to make a claim!
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>> > It appears that gross over-inflation can be and is a cause for
>> > failure, whether or not the manufacturer would use that as a cause
>> > for denial or not.
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>> > There is no need to fine-tune the pressure in the way you are
>> > suggesting. With 12R or 315/80 tires the difference of one notch in
>> > the 5psi-increment table is some 2000 lbs of total weight on 6
>> > tires! If a position is supposed to have 90 lbs when you are fully
>> > loaded and 85 when you are nearly empty that is not going to matter.
>> > Running that same tire at 120 or 130 is an entirely different matter.
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>> > I've stayed in this conversation because I know from prior talk that
>> > there are those who truly believe they are doing something good by
>> > running max sidewall pressure.
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>> > I do not believe that you can eliminate the possibility of tire
>> > failure, but I do believe you can minimize such possibilities.
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>> > On 7/4/2009 at 7:22 AM RWW wrote:
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>> > >My question should have been ,,, even if the owner had the tires at
>> > >the maximum pressure marked on the sidewall; even if it was not the
>> > >'proper / correct' pressure for the axle weight - is the tire 'over
>> > >inflated' for purposes of claiming cause and fault of the tire
>> > >failure? Keeping in mind the tires had only 4,000 miles.
>> > ...
>> > >If over inflated is defined as above the pressure recommeded on the
>> > >axle weight charts, but below the max stamped on the sidewall, we all
>> > >have a problem, as we consume our freshwater and fuel; drop off
>> > >passengers, consume supplies and unhook trailers, etc. That can add
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>> > >to a lot of weight being taken off the axles, which would put our
>> > tire
>> > >pressures above the pressure recommended by the tire charts.
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