update: no power rear load centers? 82 FC 35 SB

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Ralph..
Duh..I'm an idiot....haha. ok was totally using test lite wrong (been awhile and
thought the bar strip terminals were neg (ground)....
So- using the test lite correctly there is power to all fuses and circuit
breakers.
The wires to the pump do not work?? why don't know..break, short, loose
connection somewhere?

So ran new wire from rear load center around frig to pump...to red wire on
pump... (the 3 wires that are back there -yellow green and black/brown I think
are dead). When I touch the black pump wire to the copper water pipe the pump
works....
So now it's just a ground for the pump needed(suggestion ?) and I can get the
extra battery out of my kitchen....yes.

thank you, you've helped me out before a few times..

someday I hope to meet and put faces to names of the many who have helped me
learn so much about JP'S White Bird and systems. Making it possible for me to
keep, use and enjoy such a beast without breaking me...
I'm so tickled to feel like I can tackle these things with the help of these
forums and knowledgeable folks here who are so willing to guide the unskilled
tho enthusiastic...

With regards,

Rose Mary
JP'S White Bird
SW Oregon Coast Range (beautiful!)
Full timing in BLM forestland on equipment watch job







--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
wrote:
>
> If I reading your response right, you do have Master power to the load
> centers. So looking further for the Master breakers should be a dead issue
> there.
>
> Some times, getting a good connection is hard, thus the scraping to get a
> clean connection. We need to go with your test light hook up one way only,
> the alligator clip goes to ground and the probe is touched to hot or what
> should be hot, circuits.
>
> Do you have the manuals in the blue box or where ever they are kept? In one
> of the manuals there should be diagrams of each load center. The left rear
> load center is where the usual spot is for the fresh water pump voltage
> source. Usually it is a green wire and either number 3 or number 9 for the
> wire number. We need to find that source. Then double check the in coming
> master power to that load center and I think it should be hot, after
> reading previous posts. Some times a glass fuse was used on the fresh water
> pump source and other times a resettable circuit breaker.
>
> Your doing good, just remember to be sure there is a good ground source for
> your clip lead.
>
> Oh, the master breakers should not be in the overhead, and if not located
> at the base of the steering column then perhaps they are in the lower front
> load center, usually located behind the drivers side head light pannel.
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> "84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> Duncan, Oklahoma
>
> At 10:51 PM 8/11/2011 +0000, you wrote:
> >Hi Ralph
> >
> >Thank you for your reply. I have a simply working test lite...
> >
> >I cannot find those circuit breakers base of steering column, column is
> >enclosed in box....my master turn off switch is under the key. do I need
> >to pull front cover off bus? Or look in top front load center?
> >Will keep looking....standing on my head..haha
> >
> >there is power to the load centers...just posted wog...will paste here for
> >your easy reference...
> >I think u r onto it.
> >I'll reread and study your reply, try to find those two circuit breakers....
> >
> >WOG post:
> >
> >thought I had some things clarified about power to left load centers, then
> >something happened that really baffled me...
> >
> >Using a simple test lite determined there is power to both load centers.
> >At a strip nearest left side wall...also power to silver relays of solenoids?
> >
> >further use of test lite on fuses and breakers found nothing the normal way..
> >clipped to positive side terminal other to ground terminal ..test lite not
> >on..
> >
> >now clip to positive terminal other scraped against metal....lite on!
> >now clip to ground terminal then scraped metal...lite on!
> >
> >now clip positive then neg....no lite?
> >
> >WTF....my skills are limited but why test lite on when hooked to neg
> >ground bar and touch metal??
> >
> >Is there a dead short? another fuse?
> >
> >Is this normal....???
> >
> >Thank you for your help.
> >
> >Rose Mary
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Rose Mary:
> > >
> > > We are not going to worry about learning to use a meter right now, but we
> > > do need to be sure your test light is working so lets start with checking
> > > it out.
> > >
> > > Open the battery compartment out side under the drivers seat area. Then
> > > place the clamp lead on the NEG terminal of a battery and touch the tip of
> > > the test light to the positive terminal and the test light should
> > light. If
> > > not toss it and get another at Napa or ORilys auto parts and repeat. If
> > the
> > > test light is lighting up, you now have a known useable test tool.
> > >
> > > First of all, check the Master 12 vdc cut off switch, located by your
> > right
> > > knee as you sit in the drivers seat and reaching under the dash with your
> > > right hand. From there the Master power goes through 2 circuit breakers,
> > > one is 100 amp from the Master switch and the other is 50 amp. Both of
> > > those are located at the base of the steering column and may be tripped.
> > > Find a ground for your known good test tool and clip it then check both
> > > sides of the breakers to see if there is power.
> > >
> > > Now then the Master power comes from those 2 breakers to the left front
> > > load center and ties in on a single isolated stud. You should see 4 or 5
> > > large 1/0 red wires tied together. if you look further intoo that same
> > area
> > > you will find a solid brass bar about 1 inch wide near the cusp of the
> > > rounded roof line and that is ground. clip your test light to the solid
> > bar
> > > and check for a light at the 4 or 5 red wire tie in.
> > >
> > > The master power goes from that tie in to the rear load centers.
> > >
> > > Find the left rear load center, (drivers side in over head toward front,
> > > and the circuit breaker for your water pump is located there, it should
> > > have a green wire not sure of the number, but you can look at the wiring
> > > diagram either in the manual in the blue box or the one pasted to the
> > > inside of the load center cover, to tell you which breaker and wire you
> > are
> > > looking for. Of course, find the large solid brass ground bar and check
> > for
> > > a light (12vdc) at the incoming isolated stud found there to the main
buss.
> > >
> > > Will stop at this point and wait for your findings.
> > >
> > > Safe travels,
> > >
> > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > > "84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> > > Duncan, Oklahoma
> > >
> > > At 09:32 PM 8/10/2011 +0000, you wrote:
> > > >Hi group also posted on WOG but no replies yet.
> > > >
> > > >Hi group,
> > > >I need to sign up for a session in the bb school in dc in our birds, use
> > > >of a digital multimeter...I can understand a light bulb going off n on
> > > >tester..haha!
> > > >Seriously dumb on the multimeter, kept rereading instructions kept
> > getting
> > > >nothing....well with the simple test light there is nothing...so.
> > > >
> > > >This isnt a dire emergency. All things I use work, its just the galley
> > > >water pump and i have it jump wired to a spare battery under sink for
now.
> > > >
> > > >Guess I'm not using anything needed in those centers...haha.
> > > >simple reading lights, radio, genny ..now where is water pump power
source
> > > >from within the bus?
> > > >
> > > >Been equip watch since mid Jan in coast range, bout 30 miles from home.
> > > >Bus hasnt been down the mtn since, tho I make trips home to mow,weed eat,
> > > >shower. Fill water jugs etc.
> > > >Well I recently got undumb about how to get water into the bird without
> > > >driving her down the mountain...or spending $bucks for a pickup water
> > tank
> > > >plus already have a tool box and aux diesel tank/pump in the pickup
> > > >bed....(duh 55 gal food grade plastic barrel n old spare parr pump) Water
> > > >in the bird. ..rock n roll
> > > >
> > > >No juice to pump or anything in rear load panels?
> > > >Maybe even front and left side load center.
> > > >Fuses all appear intact but no lite with tester on anything.
> > > >Havent used the water pump since tank empty in Feb and we had snow snow
> > > >and cold all winter up here. showered at home no big deal at the time.
> > > >Dont know what happened, ground, short, fuse...mouse??
> > > >
> > > >Just changed job sites and have internet very lo but... Will be here a
> > > >month or more...yes.
> > > >
> > > >I can use text well from this location anywhere but have to be outside
> > > >about 10 feet from the bus to talk....
> > > >
> > > >Let school begin.
> > > >Thanks group
> > > >
> > > >Rose Mary
> > > >1982 FC 35 SB
> > > >JP'S White Bird
> > > >SW Oregon Coast Range
> > > >Full Time Equip watch
> > > >
> > > >541 671-1153
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