gen. door, radiator....

[Rose Mary]

Mike,
got the shroud & radiator loose except for the one bolt on the bottom
right of the shroud....reckon I need another pair of hands to hold
the radiator at the right angle so I can reach it (you're right, just
small part turns once I get ahold of it...)
Wish indeed I could have it apart & radiator fixed so I could take it
to the rally ..with extra hands to put it back together, with
everything loose as it is now the bird won't be going anywhere...rats.
Maybe tomorrow I will be able to get that last bolt loose so I can
get the radiator to the shop....
it is always an adventure...
Rose Mary
82 FC 33
Oregon

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@y...>
wrote:
> Rose Mary,
>
> You're making good headway! Nothing magic to this one, just grunt
work.
>
> Braille method is an excellent description of reaching those bottom
> bolts and screws. I seem to remember some bolts that took barely an
> 8th to 16th of a turn at a time with a wrench to get them off.
Sounds
> like you only have one more to go. Once you get the fan shroud
loose,
> I believe on your 82 that it is a two piece assembly with two or
three
> bolts/screws that hold the two major halves together. If you take
> those off, you can then get the fan shroud totally out of your way
for
> the rest of the project. Reference the picture I sent you offline.
>
> > the term grease monkey, my hands have more grease than removing a
> > few bolts should produce!
> Orange GoJo with Pumice..... before, during and after!
>
> > (another dumb question, the bottom screws which reach up through
the
> > shroud, once I get ahold of them, do I still turn counter to
loosen?
> Yes, counter clockwise to loosen. Or as my wife says: righty-
tighty;
> lefty-loosey!
>
> Gee, you're almost done getting it apart! You know Steve made you a
> REAL nice offer for help at the rally. If you don't get totally
done
> before then, maybe you can bring the repaired parts and get help
> putting it back together at the rally. Committee repairs are always
> fun events on Bluebirds! It's the stuff that future rally stories
are
> built from.
>
> Hang in there.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 83 PT40 "Stagecoach" - FOR SALE
> 91 PT40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> wrote:
> > Mike,
> > the radiator sits to the left of the engine. Have the top two
bolts
> > removed from the shroud, the bottom 2 are really going to be a
time,
> > they are sitting up in a groove where a wrench can't get and so
far
> > haven't found the right size extension to be able to use a 7/16
> > socket, I'll get it figured... going by braille I have managed to
> > reach the one on the left, the right is still a reach as I
haven't
> > the bottom hose loose yet. I can see the screw on the hose clamp
but
> > can't quite get to it. Hoping if I get the shroud loose I will be
> > able to reach it.
> > I think I am beginning to understand where the term 'monkey
wrench'
> > came from, I think I could use their dexterity to reach and
> > manipulate some of these things! or is it from the way you hold
your
> > mouth and make sounds when trying to reach and use the wrench?!
Also
> > the term grease monkey, my hands have more grease than removing a
few
> > bolts should produce!
> > How in the world does one reach to everything to reattach....ha!?
> > (another dumb question, the bottom screws which reach up through
the
> > shroud, once I get ahold of them, do I still turn counter to
loosen?
> > Don't think real well standing on my head....!
> > thanks
> > Rose Mary
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss"
<mbulriss@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Rose Mary,
> > >
> > > You're doing great. Hang in there.
> > >
> > > I sent you additional notes offline regarding removing the fan
> > shroud.
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 83 PT40 "Stagecoach" - FOR SALE
> > > 91 PT40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> > > wrote:
> > > > Mike
> > > > I got the genset slide to come out partway, can see better.
Not
> > sure
> > > > why it won't come out further but that's another project. Do
I
> > remove
> > > > the fan shroud from the radiator, duh?! I'm going to try to
take
> > the
> > > > hose off the water pump.
> > > > Wish I had taken time to learn some mechanics from my dad and
> > > > brothers when they were around....
> > > > thanks
> > > > Rose Mary
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss"
> > <mbulriss@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Rose Mary,
> > > > >
> > > > > You just have to reach way down in there and do the same
thing
> > as
> > > > you
> > > > > did on the top hose. It is tough to get to down in that
tray,
> > so it
> > > > > might be easier to take the bottom hose off from the water
pump
> > > > > instead and leave the hose connected to the radiator until
you
> > get
> > > > it
> > > > > out. I'm thinking that's what I might have done to get my
83
> > > > radiator
> > > > > out of the genset tray when I re-did the radiator.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > 83 PT40 "Stagecoach" - FOR SALE
> > > > > 91 PT40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Using a screwdriver I was able to work around the top
hose
> > and
> > > > get it
> > > > > > off.....duh, how the heck do you get to the bottom
one....or
> > > > whatever
> > > > > > is holding the bottom of the radiator from coming out.
> > > > > > Rose Mary
> > > > > > 82 FC 33
> > > > > > Oregon
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen
Birtles"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Send Jeff Miller an email he has made doors and may be
able
> > to
> > > > help
> > > > > > > you out if that fails why not go to a sheet metal shop
and
> > have
> > > > the
> > > > > > > metal bent and replace the door
> > > > > > > Stephen 77fc35
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi, thanks for the responses.
> > > > > > > > The louvre grill isn't really damaged and think I can
get
> > the
> > > > > > door to
> > > > > > > > work ok, hopefully.
> > > > > > > > I've got the radiator unbolted and the main hose
clamp
> > > > loosened
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > the hose isn't wanting to come off easily. Got too
hot,
> > so
> > > > will
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > back to it in the cool am. Do I just need more
muscle,
> > twist
> > > > &
> > > > > > groan,
> > > > > > > > a knife or what?
> > > > > > > > Don't think we have a local bluebird bus dealer
around
> > here.
> > > > I
> > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > talk with the fellow who runs the local school
district
> > bus
> > > > shop
> > > > > > once
> > > > > > > > but he just jobs any repairs (engine etc) to a local
> > truck
> > > > shop.
> > > > > > Body
> > > > > > > > work I don't know.
> > > > > > > > of course hoping for a quick fix as were hoping to
use to
> > > > coach
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > upcoming weekend for a jaunt.
> > > > > > > > Haven't tried the gen set slide, afraid if it was
damaged
> > > > I'll
> > > > > > never
> > > > > > > > get the gen. pushed back in....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thanks for your help
> > > > > > > > Rose Mary
> > > > > > > > 82 FC 33
> > > > > > > > Hot days in Oregon lately!
> > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Rosemary I replaced my generator door when I hit it
> > with a
> > > > curb
> > > > > > > > late at
> > > > > > > > > night. My local Bluebird Bus dealer made me a new
one
> > > > identical
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > the OEM
> > > > > > > > > one for $50. These dealers have everything to make
a
> > new
> > > > panel
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > any part
> > > > > > > > > of our Forward control coaches. Then I had it
painted
> > by a
> > > > > > local
> > > > > > > > body shop
> > > > > > > > > for $40. Very very reasonable. You might check
with
> > your
> > > > BB
> > > > > > school
> > > > > > > > bus
> > > > > > > > > dealer in your area. You will also find lots of
parts
> > there
> > > > at
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > cheaper
> > > > > > > > > price for some reason then directly from BB.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > > > > 1982 FC35
> > > > > > > > > Vernon Center,NY
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > At 12:09 AM 8/16/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >I got the gen door removed and am working on
getting
> > the
> > > > > > radiator
> > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > >so it can go to the radiator shop and hopefully be
> > > > repaired.
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > bent
> > > > > > > > > >door caused the framing around the louvres to push
> > into
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > radiator....
> > > > > > > > > >I think I can straighten the door without a
problem,
> > > > didn't
> > > > > > crease
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > >or anything. Hoping it didn't mess up the
> > slide....kinda a
> > > > > > greasy
> > > > > > > > job
> > > > > > > > > >but have more time than $$ so hope by taking the
> > radiator
> > > > out
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > >myself I can cut down the $ to fix my own stupid
> > mistake!
> > > > > > > > > >Rose Mary
> > > > > > > > > >82 FC 33
> > > > > > > > > >Really hot Oregon!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose
Mary"
> > > > > > > >