Longevity Question
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10-12-2005, 15:57
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Longevity Question
Hi Hank,I bet that filter is all you need if you dont go on dirt
roads like I do with the dump truck. I will look for the name of the filter and housing retrofit. It is not a good idea to blow out a paper filter unless you have a insert that will protect the cat from dust in the event you blow a hole in the filter. Your 3208 has all the goodies like an intercooler, turbo and I bet alot of air is needed to feed that powerplant. Greg California pt40 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Jay Hannigan" > > -GREG: > Enjoyed your comments about the 3208. I have a 90SP36 with 300 3208 > and I also put the "purple cat coolant in even though it cost me > $16.00 a gallon. It was nice to hear your comments about the > coolant. Glad I changed it. > As for the AIR filter, I just have the BIG $125 one on the > engine...I guess it is just a R&R filter..no way to blow it out > right??? Is there another filter I should use??? > Thanks for your comments. > Regards, > Hank Hannigan > 90SP36 > In Hawaii for now > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor" > > > > > Tom, The Cat 3208 are great engines I have one in a dumptruck with > > over 500,000 miles and have had several prior. I believe you are > > mistaken in the old style air filter systems are very poor. The > > filters must allow for dustpacking or they would become inpassable > > after one trip . The higher micron filters dustup too fast and > need > > to be blown out and simply removing the dirty dusty filter exposes > > the intake to filth. The retrofit 'filter in a filter' is the > best > > system to use I only service (blowout) the outer filter when the > > gauge (mass airflow) reads in the red. I have serviced this after > > one day and after 4 months, it is not a time or mile thing.The > inner > > filter only needs changing when the color of that filter changes. > Oil > > filters are the same, when they get too dirty the oil will > bypass. I > > change oil and filter every 10,000 miles but drop 3 gallons of hot > > oil at 5,000 miles and replace with fresh without a filter > change. > > > > I live in the desert and dont take a chance with the cooling > system. > > I keep the hot thermostat in the radiator. This is the one the > MFG > > recommends. why run it cooler than that? I use Cat coolant because > I > > lost a block to rust and was told that it would not have happened > > using purple cat. > > > > The post asked why the engines are replaced. Cat didnot design > the > > 3208 engine to be rebuildable in place. To resleve this engine you > > must put the block in a machine shop. The Detroit would work > great > > in a FC because it is rebuildable inframe. Remove the heads and > > oilpan. disconnect the pistons and pull out the sleve piston and > > rings. The detroits in the pushers have less overhead room to > remove > > and replace the heads and pistons. To do major work both FC and > > pushers often must come out. With the time and expence to remove > and > > replace combined with the high value of the rig, many owners faced > > with the task drop in a rebuilt powerplant. > > > > Tom I think you are so wise to point out that Lugging the engine > is a > > reason for premature failure. Lugging occurs when the operator > > demands and or continues to demand an engine to increase rpms and > it > > can not increase rpms or engine speed. That is the time you back > off > > the accelerator and down shift and bring the r's up to max befor > > upshifting or just stay at max r's in a lower gear untill the > climb > > changes. Watch over reving while using a lower gear. > > > > I am just learning to understand the allison in my lodge. When I > > drive , I watch the gauges and from time to time I look up to see > the > > road. > > > > Gregory O'Connor > > 94pt40 > > Romoland California > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner > > > wrote: > > > > > > Greg just a couple of points. > > > > > > 1. Air filters are not more efficient when they are dirty and as > > the > > > dirt builds up you are cutting down on the air flow thru the > > engine. > > > They are at their best when new. > > > > > > 2. Cat engines require regularly scheduled maintainence to be > > > performed just like every other engine. If you use the correct > > oil, > > > keep the correct chemically balanced coolant in the engine, dont > > lug > > > it when under load then it will outlast you. These 3208 Cats are > > > tough even though they are not a sleeved engine. > > > > > > 3. The Cat 3208 is among the most reasonable remaned engine on > the > > > market. And these engines CAN be resleeved and it is done every > day > > to them. > > > > > > 4. When you see an engine in ANY motorhome replaced at the 60- > > 70,000 > > > mile marker then you can be damn sure that engine was abused by > not > > > doing the above. > > > > > > Tom Warner > > > 1982 FC35 > > > Vernon Center,NY > > > > > > At 09:39 AM 10/11/2005, you wrote: > > > >I think owners do dumb (thoughtful to sleeping campers) things > > like use > > > >electric air compressors to pump up the brakes so they can move > the > > > >coach away from camp without warming the engine for 20- 30 > min.Too > > cold > > > >is just as bad as too hot.The cats are not inframe sleve > cylinder > > > >rebuildable, the inframe on the detroits are hard to do because > > the low > > > >overhead clearance. Air filters and lube oil are replaced too > > often, > > > >and owners fail to realize that filters are more efficient when > > dirty. > > > >If an owner has a major repair, and plan to take a long trip it > > just > > > >feels better to replace the entire engine. They are probably > over > > > >replaced because the value of the entire rig is so high in > > comparison > > > >to a replacement. > > > > > > > >Gregory O'Connor > > > >warming my dumptruck up while I write this post > > > >94pt40 8v92 > > > >Romoland, California > > > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "boatsarefunus" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why, I wonder, are there so many 10-15 year old Wanderlodges > > with > > > > > rebuilt relatively "low time" engines. Some less than 100k > > miles and > > > > > 3000 hrs. Look at the used ones for sale. > > > > > > > > > > I've been operating diesel engines in cruising boats for 15 > > years, > > > >not > > > > > like I don't know diesels, so I just want to hear it from > the > > owner > > > > > group, what's the deal with the Detroit's. Is the Cat > better, > > how > > > > > about the Cummins. I have been lead to believe the Detroit > is > > a 500k > > > > > mile plus engine. 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