Longevity Question

[Gregory OConnor]

Hi Hank,I bet that filter is all you need if you dont go on dirt
roads like I do with the dump truck. I will look for the name of the
filter and housing retrofit. It is not a good idea to blow out a
paper filter unless you have a insert that will protect the cat from
dust in the event you blow a hole in the filter. Your 3208 has all
the goodies like an intercooler, turbo and I bet alot of air is
needed to feed that powerplant.
Greg
California pt40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Jay Hannigan"
wrote:
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> -GREG:
> Enjoyed your comments about the 3208. I have a 90SP36 with 300
3208
> and I also put the "purple cat coolant in even though it cost me
> $16.00 a gallon. It was nice to hear your comments about the
> coolant. Glad I changed it.
> As for the AIR filter, I just have the BIG $125 one on the
> engine...I guess it is just a R&R filter..no way to blow it out
> right??? Is there another filter I should use???
> Thanks for your comments.
> Regards,
> Hank Hannigan
> 90SP36
> In Hawaii for now
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> -- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> wrote:
> >
> > Tom, The Cat 3208 are great engines I have one in a dumptruck
with
> > over 500,000 miles and have had several prior. I believe you
are
> > mistaken in the old style air filter systems are very poor. The
> > filters must allow for dustpacking or they would become
inpassable
> > after one trip . The higher micron filters dustup too fast and
> need
> > to be blown out and simply removing the dirty dusty filter
exposes
> > the intake to filth. The retrofit 'filter in a filter' is the
> best
> > system to use I only service (blowout) the outer filter when the
> > gauge (mass airflow) reads in the red. I have serviced this
after
> > one day and after 4 months, it is not a time or mile thing.The
> inner
> > filter only needs changing when the color of that filter changes.
> Oil
> > filters are the same, when they get too dirty the oil will
> bypass. I
> > change oil and filter every 10,000 miles but drop 3 gallons of
hot
> > oil at 5,000 miles and replace with fresh without a filter
> change.
> >
> > I live in the desert and dont take a chance with the cooling
> system.
> > I keep the hot thermostat in the radiator. This is the one the
> MFG
> > recommends. why run it cooler than that? I use Cat coolant
because
> I
> > lost a block to rust and was told that it would not have happened
> > using purple cat.
> >
> > The post asked why the engines are replaced. Cat didnot design
> the
> > 3208 engine to be rebuildable in place. To resleve this engine
you
> > must put the block in a machine shop. The Detroit would work
> great
> > in a FC because it is rebuildable inframe. Remove the heads and
> > oilpan. disconnect the pistons and pull out the sleve piston and
> > rings. The detroits in the pushers have less overhead room to
> remove
> > and replace the heads and pistons. To do major work both FC and
> > pushers often must come out. With the time and expence to remove
> and
> > replace combined with the high value of the rig, many owners
faced
> > with the task drop in a rebuilt powerplant.
> >
> > Tom I think you are so wise to point out that Lugging the engine
> is a
> > reason for premature failure. Lugging occurs when the operator
> > demands and or continues to demand an engine to increase rpms and
> it
> > can not increase rpms or engine speed. That is the time you back
> off
> > the accelerator and down shift and bring the r's up to max befor
> > upshifting or just stay at max r's in a lower gear untill the
> climb
> > changes. Watch over reving while using a lower gear.
> >
> > I am just learning to understand the allison in my lodge. When I
> > drive , I watch the gauges and from time to time I look up to see
> the
> > road.
> >
> > Gregory O'Connor
> > 94pt40
> > Romoland California
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Greg just a couple of points.
> > >
> > > 1. Air filters are not more efficient when they are dirty and
as
> > the
> > > dirt builds up you are cutting down on the air flow thru the
> > engine.
> > > They are at their best when new.
> > >
> > > 2. Cat engines require regularly scheduled maintainence to be
> > > performed just like every other engine. If you use the correct
> > oil,
> > > keep the correct chemically balanced coolant in the engine,
dont
> > lug
> > > it when under load then it will outlast you. These 3208 Cats
are
> > > tough even though they are not a sleeved engine.
> > >
> > > 3. The Cat 3208 is among the most reasonable remaned engine on
> the
> > > market. And these engines CAN be resleeved and it is done every
> day
> > to them.
> > >
> > > 4. When you see an engine in ANY motorhome replaced at the 60-
> > 70,000
> > > mile marker then you can be damn sure that engine was abused by
> not
> > > doing the above.
> > >
> > > Tom Warner
> > > 1982 FC35
> > > Vernon Center,NY
> > >
> > > At 09:39 AM 10/11/2005, you wrote:
> > > >I think owners do dumb (thoughtful to sleeping campers) things
> > like use
> > > >electric air compressors to pump up the brakes so they can
move
> the
> > > >coach away from camp without warming the engine for 20- 30
> min.Too
> > cold
> > > >is just as bad as too hot.The cats are not inframe sleve
> cylinder
> > > >rebuildable, the inframe on the detroits are hard to do
because
> > the low
> > > >overhead clearance. Air filters and lube oil are replaced
too
> > often,
> > > >and owners fail to realize that filters are more efficient
when
> > dirty.
> > > >If an owner has a major repair, and plan to take a long trip
it
> > just
> > > >feels better to replace the entire engine. They are probably
> over
> > > >replaced because the value of the entire rig is so high in
> > comparison
> > > >to a replacement.
> > > >
> > > >Gregory O'Connor
> > > >warming my dumptruck up while I write this post
> > > >94pt40 8v92
> > > >Romoland, California
> > > >
> > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "boatsarefunus"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Why, I wonder, are there so many 10-15 year old
Wanderlodges
> > with
> > > > > rebuilt relatively "low time" engines. Some less than 100k
> > miles and
> > > > > 3000 hrs. Look at the used ones for sale.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been operating diesel engines in cruising boats for 15
> > years,
> > > >not
> > > > > like I don't know diesels, so I just want to hear it from
> the
> > owner
> > > > > group, what's the deal with the Detroit's. Is the Cat
> better,
> > how
> > > > > about the Cummins. I have been lead to believe the Detroit
> is
> > a 500k
> > > > > mile plus engine. What gives.
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