Painting in Mexico

[guysmalley]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> Guy, you got to go where you feel comfortable but autobody paint is
> not an art it is a science. You buy paint for your profession and
> where you apply it is an art, how you apply it is a science
> determined by the paint manufactures. The chemicals that are
> allowable in Mexico are longer lasting proven paints and if the
> applicators are scientist and not artist every thing will be ok. I
> just dropped a piece of concrete on a 2003 Nissan Altima. ( my job
> has no art) The Artist in the body shop wanted $2800.00 for the
> repair. My Liability insurance company hired an adjuster who quoted
> $1,300. and the origional shop said they would honor that quote.--
> CON ARTIST, $1500.00 off over the phone!!!.-- I did the prep work
> and contracted a dealer to apply the paint for under $600. I have a
> Million dollar liability policy that cost $9000. per the year and I
> have to post a $5000. bond to get the premiums that low. The
> insurance game has pumped up the cost of autobody so much in the
> states that the Artist bodyshops dont have the time to do private
> work claims. They dont give private work a brake they just charge
> closer to reasonable. Maybe I should have spent the $2800. and
> passed the cost onto honest hard working customers. I pass the
> insurance premiums on! . It takes 7 months to paint a bus because too
> many unshopped insurance work comes in and the private work gets
> sidelined. I think giving in to the insurance game is bad for the
> country. If you go to mexico and save $15,000.00 that is money you
> can spend in our economy for productive things like .... New concrete
> in your driveway..... or Art work for your house.... or airoperated
> dump valves on your bus.
>
> Gregory O'Connor
> Dino Bus conversion, TJ Mexico
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "guysmalley"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike gives good advice for job completion details. I find
> craftsmen
> > > in Mexico trustful and honest but slow. I would motivate
> completion
> > > by scheduling pay draws ie prep, undercoat, colorcoat, clearcoat,
> > > reassembly. This way you control the progress. I like to stay
> > > removed from any deviation of the contract by acting as a
> > > representative of the owner. Owners complain and bitch, whereas
> > > a 'rep of the owner' respectfuly demands.
> > > Greg O'Connor
> >
> > Greg
> > In your exprience you have worked with trust worthy people. but not
> all are so what
> > happens then, you have a major investment in the hands of people
> who are outside our
> > legal system. when you compare the cost of the coach to the amount
> saved vs risk. not a
> > good gamble. We all are in business yes it is cheaper but I look at
> the fact I can support a
> > company in my case Truckcenters inc who painted my coach using
> people of all
> > backgrounds whos average time there is 16 years. yes I could have
> shopped around but I
> > could talk directly to the crew who was on my project, they had my
> number and no money
> > changed hands til they finnished. Those craftsmen buy stuff, stuff
> I produce so the circle
> > goes around, yes it is a globle community but I would like all
> countries competeing on an
> > equal ground
> > my two cents
> > guy smalley
Greg
You have a point with insurance companies, and mexicans as a whole are hard
working
people, but in my case the insurance company gave me options of places to go I
was allow
to help in finding parts i knew what the % of value they would pay so with the
help of
forums like this I found the parts work with the company and was very satisfied,
15.000
dollar difference is amazing. but as others have mention it is the prep work
that keeps a
paint job lasting. I hope for it works out for whoever goes south it is
certainly everybodies
choice which I respect. It is when things go wrong and they do here & there. it
is a major
headache. I was just pointing out my view.
guy smalley
86pt40