Up date on the Craig's Coach

[Jeff Miller]

Sorry.

The DDEC is Detroit Diesel Electronic Control

Most (if not all) '88 WLWB coaches had the DDEC1 (1st generation)
In MY'89 BlueBird went to the DDECII, easier to find parts/service.
I'm not sure how many '89s have DDEC1, I've heard of at least one.

Your '93 does have the DDEC system, also Allison Transmission
Electronic Control was installed beginning in '86 I believe (ATEC),
the two "talk" to optimize shifting etc. in the coaches with the
electronic engine and transmission.

The DDEC has the capability to output historical information on later
coaches. If you're considering buying one you can run it to a DD
dealer and have it interrogated to find things such as warning
condition events, driving style (number of max. braking events, top
speed and average speed, etc.) horsepower/torque settings (can be
changed for enough $$ on S-60 engines) etc.

Call a DD dealer and they should be able to tell you over the phone
what historical data can be downloaded from your year and for how
much $$. I'm not sure where the connector is on a '93, Randy Dupree
is one owner who likely knows though.

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Gatley"
wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
> You are going to have to be more specific with me...I'm a little
slow.
>
> I can conclude then from your comment that any of the WB coaches
after
> 1988 should have a computer. My 8V92 should have a computer and I
need
> to get it to a Detroit Allison mechanic to read the history of the
> engine...correct?
>
> Brian Gatley
> 93 WLWB PT40
> Bend, OR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Miller
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:28 AM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Up date on the Craig's Coach
>
>
> BlueBird began installing the DDEC engine computer in the '88MY
102"
> Widebody coaches. No 96"wide Wanderlodge coaches have computer-
> controlled engines to my knowledge.
>
> - Jeff Miller
> in Holland, MI
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bgatley"
wrote:
> >
> > Wallace,
> >
> > I am learning our new coach and am not sure which engine you have
> in
> > your coach. We have the 8V92 and you mentioned the engine has a
> > computer. Which engine do you have? My previous coach (Beaver)
> was
> > a CAT and it did have the computer, but for some reason I thought
> > the 8V92 does not.
> >
> > Brian Gatley
> > 93 WLWB PT40
> > Bend, OR
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wallace Craig
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ralph, thanks for posting the information about what was going
on
> > with the coach. We indeed did leave San Antonio today after
> getting
> > the reservoir neck repaired. It was actually a pin sized hole
> which
> > I took a picture of before it was repaired. I cannot in good
> > concience complain too loudly about them not finding that because
> it
> > was covered by a layer of sthyrofoam which was used to seal it
in
> > place. The prior owner did know somthing was wrong because there
> was
> > a low coolant code left on the computer from May 30th; he may not
> > have told buddy gregg and he may have. Short of having the CIA
> > torture him I doubt that I will ever know.
> > >
> > > What did really frost Faye was the dirty coach that they left
> > for her to clean up. I had her save the rags( filthy) which she
> > cleaned with and I am going to photo them and send to S&S
> management
> > along with a letter congratulating some workers and speaking ill
> of
> > others.
> > >
> > > Keep the faith and remember to water your yard if the
> > flames get close.
> > >
> > > Now in Clifton, Tx to see friends.
> > > Wallace & Faye
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ralph L. Fullenwider" wrote
> > > Happy New Year everyone:
> > >
> > > An up date on Wallace and Faye Craig's '95PT42WB. As you know
the
> > > transmission went on the trip home from the LSB Rally in
Bourne,
> > Tx. Cause
> > > was engine coolant getting into the transmission and ruining
the
> > computer
> > > and seals. An Allison Factory rebuilt was ordered and finally
> > installed.
> > >
> > > On the way home from the shop in San Antonio, the engine
warning
> > lights
> > > came on once again, and Wallace had the Coach towed back to the
> > shop. As it
> > > turned out, this time, the engine code said it was due to low
> > coolant! Well
> > > the coolant was freshly changed at that shop and had been toped
> > off.
> > >
> > > Second problem found: As it turned out, the filler neck to the
> > coolant
> > > tank, about 3 inches or so long, had a split in it just below
the
> > pressure
> > > cap. So as pressure increased the coolant ran out of the split
to
> > who knows
> > > where and of course the engine code signaled the engine stop
> light.
> > >
> > > The neck will be repaired tomorrow and all should be go at that
> > time.
> > >
> > > Bottom line on the second problem is this, Those with Coaches,
> umm
> > I would
> > > say '92/'93 on, might want to check this short neck filler tube
> > that goes
> > > into the top of the reservoir tank for any signs of splits or
> what
> > ever.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Safe travels,
> > >
> > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > > Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
> > > http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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