Jeep Liberty as a TOAD?

[Jay Darst]

Jim,

Met you at RIV2003, once in the fair grounds, I was parked about 3
busses behind you on the same side of the street...

Anyhow, Jeep Liberty Diesel Toads...
Great fuel mielage, great power, not noisey, burn clean, lotsa
torque AND horsepower, decent room, slightly narrower than Grand
Cherokee, Still enough room for 6' driver and passenger. These are
very agile, easy to manuever, turn very sharp. So far, we have had
comparitively less trouble with Libery's than other vehilces. My
service manager will say they don't get much warranty on the Liberty.

We've sold only a hand full of the Diesels. I have personally
followed up with these owners, wanted good information about their
experience with the diesel. EVERY one of them are VERY satisfied
with their Liberty CRD.

If you shop the used market for a Liberty, the 2004's have a pretty
choppy ride. The 2005 and newer Liberty's ride far better!

The Liberty Sport, which is considered the base unit, is actually
very well equipped. The list of standard equipment is L O N G.
A/C, 20.5gal fuel tank, am/fm/cd w/6 speakers, multi-stage air bags,
all speed traction control, 4 wheel anti-lock brakes, Cargo tie down
loops, command trac HD transfer case, electronic stability program,
floor mats, tinted glass, full size spare, halogens heradlamps,
power convenience group(illuminated entry,pwr mirrors-that can fold,
remote keyless entry, speed sensitive pawer locks), power windows,
rear defroster and wiper, lighted vanity mirrors, tilt wheel, tinted
glass, intermittent wipers, and Trail Rated.(trail rated with regard
to the following 4 areas: Traction-Articulation-Ground Clearance-
Water Fording)

All this for a base list price of $25,780, invoice is $24,493

My Bluebird buddies from around the country would pay only $21,993
plus tax, lic & title in your state. This is invoice less $1,500 in
midwest rebate and less $1,000 Chrysler Financial cash(Rebate).
Chrysler financial cash is avaulable contingent on you financing
with them for a period(not less than 3 months).

The Liberty's that are 20K or under are gas 2x4 6spd, base, base,
base. Not towable easily.

Tow this unit by placing the transfer case in neutral.

Thanks to the rest of you for your kind words, appreciate all the
help I can get! Factory sets me up each month when we exceed our
volume quota. Example: dealers in my zone sold 65% of their quota,
we sold 230%, with second place selling 110%. There was no 3rd
place, not even close.

So if I'm going to sell a few at cost, they're going to some good
people who maybe would not have come to IL to buy their next new
ride had they not got a GREAT deal.

We have Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep-Buick-Pontiac-GMC, so good variety all
at 1 location! We are just west of I-57 on Route 121, near Mattoon,
IL. We have a web site, http://www.HPRCars.com. Take a look, if you want
some pictures sent to you, say the word, my I-Net manager will see
to it you get them promptly.

OK, enough CARBIZ ;-)

Thanks for asking!
Jay Darst, Owner
HPR Automotive Superstore
Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep-Buick-Pontiac-GMC
1320 West Jackson
Sullivan, IL 61951
217-728-4366
800-447-3545(if you are in a state bordering IL)
217-971-0036cell


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "scoggins_jim"
<scoggins.j@a...> wrote:
>
> I am considering buying an 06 Liberty diesel and have a few
questions
> > of you. The vehicle will be used as a TOAD behind a motor coach.
I
> > have been towing a 91 Wrangler and am more than satisfied
regarding
> > the ease of use as a tow vehicle. I have no intention to use it
for
> > serious off roading: Snow and mud will usually be the worst case.
> > Power line trails and logging roads will be used occassionally.
> >
> > I understand brand loyalty but please try to be intellectually
honest
> > with your answers. If my questions are redundant please refer me
to
> > the appropriate sites.
> >
> > Q1. Many all wheel drive vehicles are restricted from being
towed 4
> > wheels down. This does not appear to be the case in Jeep. What
pros
> > and cons are there regarding the two choices: Select-Trac and
> > Command-Trac.
> > It seems that the Command Trac might be a simple system with less
> > moving parts.
> >
> > Q2. Other than the amenities, are there any substantive
differences
> > between the Sport and LE. Stated otherwise, is there something
in the
> > LE that it of such over-riding importance, performance wide,
that is
> > worth the extra expense and weight.
> >
> > Q3. Do you all see any need for the skid plates. I sense, given
the
> > way I screw things up, they could be handy after I have gotten
in
> > over my head.
> >
> > Q4. I have been unable to find any real information on the diesel
> > engine. I understand it is of Euro linage but who and where.
Rumor
> > mill says built in Italy. Have there been any real issues with
this
> > engine?
> >
> > Q5. I have been lurking and skulking about on this web site
trying to
> > get some insight on issues. There seems to be some goofy items:
Water
> > spots on seats, weird lighting issues, moaning brakes, etc.
Other some
> > ball joint issues I have not seen anything really bad. Everyone
seems
> > happy with engines and drive trains. Is this the case, or are
there
> > drive train issues I have not picked up on. By he way, does a
heay
> > applicaon of Scoch Guard, solve the seat spotting problem.
> >
> > Q6. Are there any of you that have owned both a diesel and gas
> > Liberties? Comments?
> >
> > Q7. What are the maintenance intervals and is there anything
really
> > unusual? I am familiar with diesel engines as I have a Power
Stroke in
> > a Ford, a Kabota in a farm tractor and a Cummins in a Bluebird,
but
> > have no experience with small automotive applications. I
understand
> > that 4 wheel drive is a little more intensive service wise, but
I am
> > asking about anything that is really unusual.
> >
> > Q8. My take is the Sport might be a better choice for me in that
there
> > are fewer ammenities to cause nit-noid problems. Comments?
> >
> > Thank you for your responses in advance and for bearing with a
newbe
> > wanabe.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jim Scoggins
>