Water Leaks!

[Bruce Morris]

Yes Tom. I know about the freeze heaters and they are still there. However I
doubt that they are working as they were designed. They seemed to run a whole
lot more than they should when the ambient temperature was well above freezing.
Like many things in a 20+ year old Bird they just need attention and since I was
incapacitated for most of the last 4 or 5 years I am playing catch up.

I am familiar with the tape that has the thermostat in the end and I haven't
pulled one of the blue wires yet to check it, but am under the impression that
there was no mechanism at the end of the wire. I'll learn more when I can see
one that is intact.


----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Warner
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks!


Bruce if you have the coach as it was originally built you should
have a freeze protector (electric heater with blower) installed near
the water tank and another in the area of the kitchen sink. These are
thermostatically controlled and will keep the pipes from freezing.
The blue heat tape is further protection and is a resistance tape
that is controlled by a thermostat molded in at the end of the tape.

tom warner
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

At 09:34 AM 3/5/2006, you wrote:
>Well Tom, as I said earlier I don't winterize my Bird but I do keep
>it connected to electricity and keep heat in it when it gets too
>cold. Maybe it's just a "Bruce" thing.
>
>I know that my Bird came from New Hampshire where it probably got
>cold enough to be a problem. All of the problems I have encountered
>did not occur on my watch, but I have to deal with them. I suspect
>the same thing is true of Bruce in Florida too since I believe he
>just bought the coach from someplace up north.
>
>So I guess you are right neither one of us followed the procedures
>as outlined in the Blue Box.
>
>Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC
>Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online
>1983 WL FC35RB
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Warner
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> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks!
>
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> The fact that you both have frozen pipes begs the question of whether
> either of you properly followed the procedures for winterizing your
> fresh, grey and black water systems that is outlined in your
> owners manuals?
>
> tom warner
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon center,NY
>
> At 09:52 PM 3/4/2006, you wrote:
> >Stephen, that is exactly what I am doing with my Bird now. It looks
> >like I am going to have to remove most of the pipes and replace
> >them. The ones that had not burst were expanded so that none of the
> >standard fittings will work. So, to do it right I have decided to
> >replace the copper with PEX which is supposed to be resistant to
> >bursting if frozen and it supposed to be much easier to work with in
> >tight areas.
> >
> >I have some pictures on the WOO site where I have taken mine apart,
> >but I still have to put the new in yet. I will be doing it in the
> >next few days . . . one way or the other.
> >
> >Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC
> >Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online
> >1983 WL FC35RB
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> >FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME
> >Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Stephen
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:35 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks!
> >
> >
> > Anyone else out there had to deal with what Im going through? I have
> > Niagra Falls running through my bus... Almost ALL of the copper water
> > pipes are busted...(I guess thats what I get for buying a unit from up
> > north) I got 3 repaired today --after removing the water tank- and now
> > there are more behind the stove-ice maker area!! I dont know how im
> > going to get those out from behind there, and the shower area(SB).....
> > Any ideas????? HELP!!!
> >
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