Water Leaks!

[mbulriss]

Bruce -

The freeze heaters on my 83 had an adjustable thermostat on each of
them. Mine were set to kick on at about 35 degrees or so. Maybe
someone turned yours up higher if they are running at temps well above
freezing.

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Morris" <bamnc@...> wrote:
>
> Yes Tom. I know about the freeze heaters and they are still there.
However I doubt that they are working as they were designed. They
seemed to run a whole lot more than they should when the ambient
temperature was well above freezing. Like many things in a 20+ year
old Bird they just need attention and since I was incapacitated for
most of the last 4 or 5 years I am playing catch up.
>
> I am familiar with the tape that has the thermostat in the end and I
haven't pulled one of the blue wires yet to check it, but am under the
impression that there was no mechanism at the end of the wire. I'll
learn more when I can see one that is intact.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Warner
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 10:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks!
>
>
> Bruce if you have the coach as it was originally built you should
> have a freeze protector (electric heater with blower) installed near
> the water tank and another in the area of the kitchen sink. These are
> thermostatically controlled and will keep the pipes from freezing.
> The blue heat tape is further protection and is a resistance tape
> that is controlled by a thermostat molded in at the end of the tape.
>
> tom warner
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon Center,NY
>
> At 09:34 AM 3/5/2006, you wrote:
> >Well Tom, as I said earlier I don't winterize my Bird but I do keep
> >it connected to electricity and keep heat in it when it gets too
> >cold. Maybe it's just a "Bruce" thing.
> >
> >I know that my Bird came from New Hampshire where it probably got
> >cold enough to be a problem. All of the problems I have encountered
> >did not occur on my watch, but I have to deal with them. I suspect
> >the same thing is true of Bruce in Florida too since I believe he
> >just bought the coach from someplace up north.
> >
> >So I guess you are right neither one of us followed the procedures
> >as outlined in the Blue Box.
> >
> >Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC
> >Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online
> >1983 WL FC35RB
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> > From: Tom Warner
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> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks!
> >
> >
> > The fact that you both have frozen pipes begs the question of
whether
> > either of you properly followed the procedures for winterizing
your
> > fresh, grey and black water systems that is outlined in your
> > owners manuals?
> >
> > tom warner
> > 1982 FC35
> > Vernon center,NY
> >
> > At 09:52 PM 3/4/2006, you wrote:
> > >Stephen, that is exactly what I am doing with my Bird now.
It looks
> > >like I am going to have to remove most of the pipes and replace
> > >them. The ones that had not burst were expanded so that none
of the
> > >standard fittings will work. So, to do it right I have
decided to
> > >replace the copper with PEX which is supposed to be resistant to
> > >bursting if frozen and it supposed to be much easier to work
with in
> > >tight areas.
> > >
> > >I have some pictures on the WOO site where I have taken mine
apart,
> > >but I still have to put the new in yet. I will be doing it
in the
> > >next few days . . . one way or the other.
> > >
> > >Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC
> > >Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online
> > >1983 WL FC35RB
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> > > From: Stephen
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:35 PM
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks!
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone else out there had to deal with what Im going
through? I have
> > > Niagra Falls running through my bus... Almost ALL of the
copper water
> > > pipes are busted...(I guess thats what I get for buying a
unit from up
> > > north) I got 3 repaired today --after removing the water
tank- and now
> > > there are more behind the stove-ice maker area!! I dont
know how im
> > > going to get those out from behind there, and the shower
area(SB).....
> > > Any ideas????? HELP!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > > 81 FC-33SB
> > > Plant City, FL
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