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30 AMP OPS
08-12-2006, 14:18
Post: #11
30 AMP OPS
Pete, use care in setting up the 30 amp 220. I would use a 50 amp 220
receptacle and mark it "will trip at 29 amps ." 30 amp cords are set
up for single leg. and 50 amps are set up for double. In the RV
industry 50 amp means double leg and 30 amp means single leg. your
30 amp breaker is just a responsible way to hook up a double leg run
with 100 foot extension cords. There is never any danger in tripping
a breaker. The danger is allowing too many amps to be drawn through
undersized or over lengthen wires.

To trip a 50 amp breaker you can draw 51 amps off one leg or 25 and
26 amps on a set. With your 30 amp 220 breaker at the house you have
30 amp available on each leg but not at the same time.

Even if you can hook both legs of the coach up to a pedestal at a
park, the park receptacles must be on different legs for you to get
220 in the coach for ac and such. Cheaters tie both sides of the
coach panel together into a common leg. You end up with twice the
risk of tripping a breaker. 220 appliances that get turned on may
act like a cheater as current may flow around the windings and or
rheostats. Cheaters may cause problems that could be where they get
the name
Gregory O'Connor
cheater
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> I guess my coach (being "newer") has evolved. It only has a 50 amp
> connector. Everything else is reached by adaptors on the 50 amp
> connector.
>
> At my home, I actually have 220 v 30amps available ... but I had
to
> use 100' of extension cable to reach the coach and I bought two
50'
> 30 amp cables (and a matching receptacle) ...not realizing that
they
> were only 110v until I started to wire it up (and ended up with an
> "extra" wire). (Hey, I don't do that much wiring.)
>
> Had I realized, I'd have purchased 50 amp extensions and wired for
> 220 ... knowing that the outlet had a 30 amp breaker instead of
50.
> (If only I could park the coach closer to the house!)
>
> Still, the primary (and only) connection powers the leg with the
> charger when 30 amp 110 v is all that's available.
>
> So, my question is: Can the "cheater cable" actually work with a
50
> amp connection to get power to both legs? In a couple of parks
that
> didn't have 50 amps, it seemed that I could connect to 30 and 20
(or
> 15)? Would that work?
>
> Pete Masterson
> aeonix1@...
> '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203
> El Sobrante, CA
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 12, 2006, at 5:21 AM, Tom Warner wrote:
>
> > All wanderlodges that I have seen have one 50 amp plug and two 30
amp
> > plugs. The 50 amp plug serves both leg one and leg two (with the
main
> > switch set to shore 50). One 30 amp plug serves the drivers side
of
> > the coach and the other 30 amp plug serves the passenger side
(with
> > the main switch set to shore 30). On the forward controls the
drivers
> > side 30 amp plug serves the chargers and on the PTs the passenger
> > side plug serves the chargers. To ensure that you can charge
using 30
> > amps just make sure you are plugged into the correct 30 amp plug.
> >
> > Tom warner
> > vernon center,ny
> > 1985 PT 40
> >
> >
> > At 06:31 AM 8/12/2006, you wrote:
> >> Leroy,
> >> On my 86 PT40 I have on the outside of coach one 50 amp connector
> >> and two 30 amp connectors one 30 amp connector for leg one and
one
> >> thirty amp connector for leg two
> >> Howard Truitt Camilla, Ga. 86 PT40
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: jwasnewski
> >> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 6:14 PM
> >> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] 30 AMP OPS
> >>
> >>
> >> Recently I stopped overnight and had to use 30amp park power.
I
> >> carry
> >> a cable for that purpose but have never used it. 30amp gave
me
> >> leg two
> >> in the coach but did not go through the Trace inverter to
charge
> >> the
> >> batteries. Looked at my diagrams with no luck. I may need to
get a
> >> 50amp female recepticle for the end of my 30amp cord, plug it
> >> into the
> >> normal 50amp line and see what happens. Doesn't make sense
that the
> >> factory 30amp bus connection does not charge the batteries. Is
this
> >> normal?
> >>
> >> Leroy Eckert
> >> 1990WB40
> >> Niceville, FL
> >>
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Messages In This Thread
30 AMP OPS - jwasnewski - 08-11-2006, 10:14
30 AMP OPS - Pete Masterson - 08-11-2006, 10:23
30 AMP OPS - John Suter - 08-11-2006, 12:46
30 AMP OPS - Scott - 08-11-2006, 13:40
30 AMP OPS - Gregory OConnor - 08-11-2006, 16:17
30 AMP OPS - Howard O. Truitt - 08-11-2006, 22:31
30 AMP OPS - John Suter - 08-11-2006, 23:33
30 AMP OPS - Tom Warner - 08-12-2006, 00:21
30 AMP OPS - erniecarpet@... - 08-12-2006, 08:11
30 AMP OPS - Pete Masterson - 08-12-2006, 11:59
30 AMP OPS - Gregory OConnor - 08-12-2006 14:18
30 AMP OPS - Pete Masterson - 08-12-2006, 14:49
30 AMP OPS - Gregory OConnor - 08-12-2006, 17:05
30 AMP OPS - Gardner Yeaw - 08-12-2006, 20:45
30 AMP OPS - John Suter - 08-13-2006, 01:02
30 AMP OPS - John Suter - 08-13-2006, 01:29
30 AMP OPS - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 08-13-2006, 05:20
30 AMP OPS - Pete Masterson - 08-13-2006, 07:25
30 AMP OPS - Pete Masterson - 08-13-2006, 07:46
30 AMP OPS - jwasnewski - 08-13-2006, 08:04
30 AMP OPS - Pete Masterson - 08-13-2006, 08:22
30 AMP OPS - jwasnewski - 08-13-2006, 08:43
30 AMP OPS - Gregory OConnor - 08-13-2006, 09:10
30 AMP OPS - John Suter - 08-13-2006, 09:15
30 AMP OPS - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 08-13-2006, 09:29
30 AMP OPS - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 08-13-2006, 09:34
30 AMP OPS - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 08-13-2006, 09:45
30 AMP OPS - The Squires - 08-13-2006, 10:01
30 AMP OPS - erniecarpet@... - 08-13-2006, 10:20
30 AMP OPS - Leroy Eckert - 08-13-2006, 10:34
30 AMP OPS - Leroy Eckert - 08-13-2006, 10:39
30 AMP OPS - John Suter - 08-13-2006, 11:15
30 AMP OPS - Leroy Eckert - 08-13-2006, 12:06
30 AMP OPS - Pete Masterson - 08-13-2006, 15:13
30 AMP OPS - John Suter - 08-13-2006, 23:16
30 AMP OPS - g_man1146 - 08-14-2006, 05:22
30 AMP OPS - Leroy Eckert - 08-14-2006, 07:49
30 AMP OPS - Leroy Eckert - 08-14-2006, 11:48



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