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bio Diesel
04-24-2006, 23:03
Post: #11
bio Diesel
Al,

The Diesels trucks we are having troubles with have less than 10,000
miles on them. 2 of them had 4,000 miles on them when we changed the
filters under warranty for a 2nd time.

The trucks symptoms were simply no power. Changed the fuel filter
and off they go again.

We have been cutting open the filters lately, the last 5 or 6 have
had a brownish slime coating the element.

I know for a fact that the 2 trucks mentioned were ordered by the
customers, built promptly by GM, delivered to customers within a day
or 2 of their arrival and been driven daily since using 11% Bio-
Diesel.

My service team is in contact with GM techline working on a
solution. Gm techline has informed us that they will void the fuel
system warranty on any vehicle that has more than a 5% biodiesel
mixture in its fuel system.

The DaimlerChrysler folks have sent us a bulletin that indicates
that any fuel above 5% Bio has caused the high pressure injection
pumps to fail due to lack of lubrication to the fuel pump. They too,
are voiding the pump warranty on anything over 5%.

We are in the farmimg belt, where they make 70bu/acre soybeans and
225bu/acre corn, my store is in a big farming community. I sure
would rather see us burning 100% Bio, certainly would make my buyers
buy more!

If there is a petroleum engineer on this forum who can provide us
the answer, we certainly are listening.

Thanks
Jay Darst
HPR Automotive Superstore
Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep-Buick-Pontiac-GMC
Sullivan, IL
Service Director Bob Freeman
217-728-4366 voice phone

85PT40 6V92 burning 11% BioDiesel and still changing Racor fuel
filters at every oil change for 3 years and 40,000 miles.
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" wrote:
>
> Jay,
> Actually, biodiesel is a very good solvent. So it's not the
> fuel that is dirty. Basically, biodiesel is cleaning out years of
> petro build-up. If you don't believe me, take a very dirty engine
> and put diesel on it and let it sit for 5 minutes and rinse.
> Nothing comes off the engine. Put the biodiesel on it and rinse
and
> it will clean engine better than any off the shelf engine
cleaner.
> Plus biodiesel is derived from plants so it is a renewable
resourse
> unlike the petro we by from our friends in the middle east now
over
> $75 a barrel. Generally after a couple of tanks, your system will
> be cleaned out and the freq. filter changes will go away.
>
> Al Johnson
> 96 BMC
> Mandeville, Louisiana
> Currently in Chongqing, China.
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Darst"
> wrote:
> >
> > Guy,
> > I have not been exposed to the B20 blend of Bio diesel.
> >
> > But would like to make a comment here...
> >
> > The local distributor(in Sullivan,IL) only sells the 11% bio-
blend.
> >
> > With the late model GMC Duramax Diesels, we have found
consistency
> > in the need to replace the fuel filter every 2,000 miles when
> using
> > this 11% Bio-Diesel.
> >
> > In the Cummins, no problems such as this.
> >
> > We have a GMC customer who has replaced the OEM factory filter
> with
> > a Racor, don't know which micron filter element he is using...
> >
> > Seems that the 11% Bio-Diesel has a thicker viscosity making it
> > harder to filter the crap out prior to selling it to the
retailers.
> >
> > I buy most of my fuel from this place, I get 6.4mpg with it.
Used
> to
> > get 5.5 to 6.0 with Flying J fuel, but its about the same now.
The
> > real point here is, my Racor element is covered with a black
slime
> > when the filter is changed every 5,000 miles, when the DD oil &
> > filter change is performed.
> >
> > I use Lucas fuel treatment at the rate of 1 gallon per 400
> gallons
> > of diesel, should be sufficient to prevent algae/plant growth in
> my
> > fuel.
> >
> > Bottom line here, Bio-Diesel is not as clean as fossil fuel.
> >
> > My brother Dan has mentioned that the powers that be are
changing
> > the diesel fuel chemical mix in September, causing a very minor
> > reduction in the cetane(like Octane is to gasoline).
> >
> > Diesel fuel, seems like a moving target right now ...;~}
> >
> > Later
> > Jay Darst
> > 85PT40
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "guysmalley"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Has anybody actually tried B20 bio diesel blend?
> > >
> > > http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel...lingsites/
> > >
> > > guy smalley
> > > 86 pt 40
> > >
> >
>
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bio Diesel - erniecarpet@... - 04-23-2006, 23:46
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bio Diesel - Al - 04-24-2006, 01:39
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bio Diesel - fl_bluebird_1983 - 04-25-2006, 00:03
bio Diesel - Mike Hohnstein - 04-25-2006, 01:56
bio Diesel - Al - 04-25-2006, 02:47
bio Diesel - Al - 04-25-2006, 02:58
bio Diesel - Pete Masterson - 04-25-2006, 05:17
bio Diesel - Dick Gercken - 04-25-2006, 06:24
bio Diesel - Jay Darst - 04-25-2006, 14:53
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