Help with Air Throttle

[pattypape]

Hi Don,

That is a good question,
I was able to disassemble the original valve,
to get things working, But this is not a good solution, it works but
now leaks air.
All the local NAPA , truck parts stores, do not stock this part.
So, AllenAir Corp. gave me the location of a distributor in Tampa.
http://www.allenair.com/
Even the distributors do not stock this valve, AllenAir, holds the
stock, drop ships and distributor (middle man) makes the profit.
Plus there was a minimum order.

But I am still really Happy.

Bill 88 FC Michigan


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Donald Spithaler"
wrote:
>
> Bill
> I'm glad you have it fixed. Nothing like having trouble in your
own
> drive way. I don't even mind that.I have one of those valves for my
> Horton fan on the curb side engine compartment on the frame rail & I
> have seen the one in my drivers side engine compartment for the
Bendix
> cruise control. Where were you able to find one?
> Don spithaler
> 89 SP 36'
> Butler, PA In Zephyrhills, FL
>
> On Jan 26, 2008 7:45 PM, pattypape wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > This solenoid, that I referred to in the post, controls the air
flow
> > to the Foot throttle, in conjuction with the Bendix Cruise
Control.
> > On the 88 FC front engine it is located, under the coach between
> > the engine and battery box on the driver side. It is behind a
steel
> > cover mounted to a steel box about 12" x 14" x 2".
> > Inside this box are all the associated parts for the Bendix
cruise,
> > including the valves, solenoids, electronic module and lots of
copper
> > pipe connecting all the stuff together, It is quiet a RAT's nest.
> > On an SP it is in the rear, driver side on the engine fire wall,
open
> > and easy to see and work on. BB used this valve in several areas
to
> > control air flow.
> > I do not know if your 88 PT Bird uses this system or where it
would
> > be located.
> >
> > The valve looks like this:
> > http://www.allenair.com/2-3wayvalves.htm
> >
> > Or a better view here:
> >
> > http://www.allenair.com/pdf/2-3WayValves.pdf
> >
> > go to page #3 and scroll to the bottom , left side,
> > it is labeled " Grommet Housing Suffix G"
> >
> > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "maureyroad"
> >
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill, Where is the 12V solenoid that controls
> > > air pressure flow?
> > > Dan
> > > 88pt38
> > > Jackson, MS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"

> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > We fired up the Bird, after not running it for about two
months,
> > > > > and we have no foot throttle acceleration.
> > > > >
> > > > > Our 88 FC has a Williams air control foot trottle.
> > > > > And a Bendix Cruise Controll.
> > > > >
> > > > > Both the foot throttle and the cruise control, share the
same
> > air
> > > > > throttle cylinder.
> > > > > This air cylinder with the attached cable to the injection
> > pump,
> > > > > works great, for the high / low idle, that is set by the
> > > Resume/Set
> > > > > switches on the Bendix Cruise.
> > > > > The foot brake also lowers the idle.
> > > > >
> > > > > It appears that the Cruise control is out of the circuit
> > > > > when turned "Off". The cruise worked great on our last
trip.
> > > > >
> > > > > So is there a check valve or air solenoid switch in the air
> > > > plumbing
> > > > > between the air supply and the foot throttle?? Where is it
> > > > located??
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help or ideas are needed and welcome.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was able to get some information from the drawings, that
> > Ralph
> > > > has
> > > > > in the files.
> > > > > But these seem to be for a 6V or 8V and may be different
than
> > our
> > > > FC.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

[Rick B]

Bill,

Good to hear you are going again. From personal experience, I know
that throttle system can be disheartening. Thanks for sharing what
you found. You mentioned a "minimum order" for the valves. If you
had to buy more than you need, let me know and I'll buy one from you
to have on hand.

Rick
87FC35
Rochester, MN


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
wrote:
>
>
> Hi Don,
>
> That is a good question,
> I was able to disassemble the original valve,
> to get things working, But this is not a good solution, it works but
> now leaks air.
> All the local NAPA , truck parts stores, do not stock this part.
> So, AllenAir Corp. gave me the location of a distributor in Tampa.
> http://www.allenair.com/
> Even the distributors do not stock this valve, AllenAir, holds the
> stock, drop ships and distributor (middle man) makes the profit.
> Plus there was a minimum order.
>
> But I am still really Happy.
>
> Bill 88 FC Michigan
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Donald Spithaler"
> wrote:
> >
> > Bill
> > I'm glad you have it fixed. Nothing like having trouble in your
> own
> > drive way. I don't even mind that.I have one of those valves for my
> > Horton fan on the curb side engine compartment on the frame rail & I
> > have seen the one in my drivers side engine compartment for the
> Bendix
> > cruise control. Where were you able to find one?
> > Don spithaler
> > 89 SP 36'
> > Butler, PA In Zephyrhills, FL
> >
> > On Jan 26, 2008 7:45 PM, pattypape wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Dan,
> > >
> > > This solenoid, that I referred to in the post, controls the air
> flow
> > > to the Foot throttle, in conjuction with the Bendix Cruise
> Control.
> > > On the 88 FC front engine it is located, under the coach between
> > > the engine and battery box on the driver side. It is behind a
> steel
> > > cover mounted to a steel box about 12" x 14" x 2".
> > > Inside this box are all the associated parts for the Bendix
> cruise,
> > > including the valves, solenoids, electronic module and lots of
> copper
> > > pipe connecting all the stuff together, It is quiet a RAT's nest.
> > > On an SP it is in the rear, driver side on the engine fire wall,
> open
> > > and easy to see and work on. BB used this valve in several areas
> to
> > > control air flow.
> > > I do not know if your 88 PT Bird uses this system or where it
> would
> > > be located.
> > >
> > > The valve looks like this:
> > > http://www.allenair.com/2-3wayvalves.htm
> > >
> > > Or a better view here:
> > >
> > > http://www.allenair.com/pdf/2-3WayValves.pdf
> > >
> > > go to page #3 and scroll to the bottom , left side,
> > > it is labeled " Grommet Housing Suffix G"
> > >
> > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "maureyroad"
> > >
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bill, Where is the 12V solenoid that controls
> > > > air pressure flow?
> > > > Dan
> > > > 88pt38
> > > > Jackson, MS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We fired up the Bird, after not running it for about two
> months,
> > > > > > and we have no foot throttle acceleration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our 88 FC has a Williams air control foot trottle.
> > > > > > And a Bendix Cruise Controll.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Both the foot throttle and the cruise control, share the
> same
> > > air
> > > > > > throttle cylinder.
> > > > > > This air cylinder with the attached cable to the injection
> > > pump,
> > > > > > works great, for the high / low idle, that is set by the
> > > > Resume/Set
> > > > > > switches on the Bendix Cruise.
> > > > > > The foot brake also lowers the idle.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It appears that the Cruise control is out of the circuit
> > > > > > when turned "Off". The cruise worked great on our last
> trip.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So is there a check valve or air solenoid switch in the air
> > > > > plumbing
> > > > > > between the air supply and the foot throttle?? Where is it
> > > > > located??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any help or ideas are needed and welcome.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was able to get some information from the drawings, that
> > > Ralph
> > > > > has
> > > > > > in the files.
> > > > > > But these seem to be for a 6V or 8V and may be different
> than
> > > our
> > > > > FC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>