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11-14-2009, 11:01
Post: #11
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We would like to make everyone aware of the contact info for the repair shop in
Colorado Springs, CO. One Stop Cop Plus Shop, owned and run by Robert Chapman.
Website http://www.rcunique.com, 719 495-2740.

They were efficient, knowledgeable, polite and considerate folks. Wish Roberts
shop was closer as there is a number of modifications and some minor repairs we
would have them handle. We were extremely pleased with their service and would
highly recommend them.

Paul & Jo Caver
1993 WLWB "Teri"
Seven Points, TX
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11-14-2009, 11:38
Post: #12
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Fred
Interesting experiences and education on the SP, as I had the plastic original
tank out 4 times for "seam repair" before giving up and having the stainless
tank built. Having full confidence that would be the last time anyone would
ever have to remove that tank unless they wanted to correct the error of the
sensors being graduated in 1/3's rather than 1/4's. We loved that coach enough
to buy another one although not as new as yours. (owned the "baby bird" 3-4
years)
Paul & Jo Carver
'93 PT40 "Teri" in Seven Points TX.
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11-14-2009, 19:09
Post: #13
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Paul, if a hot line is lost the path of current ends but if a neutral is lost
the ac runs on the other hot 180 out of phase. I just cant see how it would get
to that path.

My fear with folks adding all the extra protection devices Surge protectors
etc.. in fear of a repeat problem is placement of the Made in China device is
usually on the rug behind a desk or under draperies and night stands. now when
the condition repeats its self the protection device gets hot and catches other
items on fire .

If you report the incidence of electrical issues in a cunning way by posting on
rvparkreviews.com maybe some one will report the same issue and prompt a repair
at the park.

When I dont need the air conditioners i will use the 30 amp adapter to plug in
the coach. 30 amp is only one leg 120v and you cant go over voltage when the
total supply is = to the safe limit.

using a 50 amp shore cord to 30 amp pedestal adapter plug is different than
using the Bluebird 30 amp inlet. the adaptor will power both sides of the power
panel with only 30 amps total. the 50 amp would have provided 100 amps. the
problem is energy management because if you run all the junk in the bus while
on 30 amps you stand the chance of popping the campground pedestal breaker.
best practice is to run the chargers at night after you turned off the water
heater

I dont think I would drive up to remote repair places and ask for repairs to a
broken heel on a 7 foot tall stiletto.

Greg
94ptca
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gpaulcarver" wrote:
>
> Greg
> I was just repeating what I was told from the diagnosing technition in the use
of "common" as there is also an "earth ground" as the forth connector on the
plug. No problems with the plug or continuity of the coach's cord and the
transfer switch has been replaced as no parts were available for the old one. I
did save the old one as the gen.'s side was still good. They are interchangable
but very difficult to get to on our bus. Anyone needing parts for the old
transfer switch are welcome to what I have and aside from shipping I'll bet it
could save 4-5 hundred dollars as well as some grief of wire lengths to fit the
replacement (larger box)
> I suspect relay failures may be rare and others may not have an after-market
compressor installed in front of the transfer switch & junction box. Ours works
fine now as we've been hooked up to at least four other sources since the
repair/replacement and everything we've replaced works as expected. All that's
left to buy are a couple of TV's which were slated for updating any way. Jo
also likes the new convection/microwave better than the old one which is
obsolete for support parts. (GE vs. Sharp)
> I'd hate to think of what it cost to build your shoe if all the man hours had
to be purchased in a remote place. $$$$$$$$$$$$$
> Paul & Jo
> '93 PT 40 "Teri" in Seven Points, TX.
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gregory O" wrote:
> >
> >
> > the condition is called lost neutral or open neutral. to call it a common
would imply dc current. I believe???the transfer switch removes the neutral
along with the two hot lines otherwise the shorepower neutral which is earth
ground will ground out all the genset ac current???. if the transfer switch was
the problem that caused the other resulting issues, replacing the resulting
issues and the causing problem (transfer switch) will keep it from happening
again. it may well be that the neutral was lost some other place like in your
shore cord or in the campground pedistal and the issue is doomed to repeat its
self again.
> >
> > I can not understand how the ac current transfers voltage to the other leg
when the neutral is lost but I realize that electrical code properly followed
will prevent the damage.
> > Here is a rv related lost neutral article
> > http://www.myrv.us/electric/Pg/open_neutral.htm
> >
> > One of the gals in our rv club had a recent lost neutral when her plug fell
out of the reseptical on an angle. the ground and center two hot prongs stayed
connected. I can also see where carbon stained prongs on the plug can cause a
lost neutral. I now always make the effort to shut down the breaker prior to
connecting and use duct tape or a copper wire tie (10 ga single strand
irrigation wire)to keep the pedistal connection inplace
> >
> > Greg 94ptca
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gpaulcarver" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > First we'd like to thank all who responded to our distress and
> > > especially Liz who posted our predicament when we couldn't. Leaving all
> > > to chance, we departed the last Lone Star Bird rally in balmy Texas to
> > > venture north to Colorado to relocate an aging Aunt to a nursing
> > > facility. That said, the "chance" portion was more than expected in
> > > late Oct. Our intended stay was 3-5 days (just before the unscheduled
> > > weather) and got extended to 14 days to accomplish all that needed done.
> > > Well the weather added some of those days to correct problems created by
> > > 15 degree temps. at night and 2 feet of snow making corrections
> > > difficult in windy Royal Gourge. First our Primus system wasn't working
> > > properly so basement heat was not on. Subsequently our water pumps
> > > froze and cracked and the parks water system was turned off for the
> > > season. Next a heavy snow took out the common on our 50 amp electric
> > > circut. This caused a chain of events to include frying our shorepower
> > > transfer switch, the microwave, a TV, one charger, a circut on the
> > > inverter, and two GFI's. We were ill prepared to address many of the
> > > issues in the weather and limited tooling let alone no supply source.
> > > Luckily the zap spared our refrigerator and the other half of the
> > > transfer switch. So our generator saved the remaining days and provided
> > > heat till we could drive up to Colorado Springs to a great shop that
> > > corrected most of our problems. We'll post later on that shops name and
> > > address. Needless to say we're glad to be home and express again our
> > > appreciation for the support offered from this group.
> > >
> > > Paul & Jo Carver
> > >
> > > '93 pt40 "Teri" Seven Points TX.
> > >
> >
>
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