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07-16-2007, 15:06
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Painting project
Yeah, I understand the trip is priority. So who cares if the bus is under
restoration and only half painted. So it takes 6 months.You can only see one side at a time. And folks will applaud your tenacity. I think that's ok. If not, we are hanging with the wrong crowd. Don't stop now, your will have wasted the prior time. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" Niceville, FL Royale Conversion ----- Original Message ----- From: Gardner Yeaw To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Painting project Leroy, If I have a choice of taking a trip or working on the Bird, the trip wins. What I dream of is a restoration campground. One that caters to folks restoring coaches of any make. It would be great if such a place existed. Imagine having a group of experienced RV technicians, mechanics, interior specialists, and other kinds of services in a concentraited area. Pull in, set up, and get out the Mastercard. Gardner 78FC33 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert" > > I know what you mean. I spent 5 years of Sundays restoring an airplane. It is gratifying. However you can go anywhere in your coach with it half painted and that is perfectly ok. Enjoy it while you work on it. It took me five years to fly it then I sold it to my partner. lol > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-Smoke N Mirrors" > Niceville, FL > Royale Conversion > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gardner Yeaw > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:08 PM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Painting project > > > Leroy, > I know you are right about one section at a time. My problem is > that I still have a job. I can only get to work on the Bird one day > per good weather weekend. There just ain't enough time to keep it > running well, washed, waxed, etc. and think about painting. > > Gardner > 78FC33 > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert" > > > > > You can do it one section at a time if your plan properly. Use > seams in the metal taped off properly and over a period of time not > one single person will ever know unless you tell them. > > Leroy Eckert > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > > Niceville, FL > > Royale Conversion > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gardner Yeaw > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:50 PM > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Painting project > > > > > > Leroy, > > Thanks. My paint is pealing in places right down to the > galvanized > > surface. It would seem that I really should get down to that and > > start fresh when/if I actually do start painting. I may do the > Front > > and rear, then think about the sides and roof. In the North East > the > > weather just isn't stable enough for planning a big paint job. > > > > Gardner > > 78FC33 > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert" > > > > > > > > I know your post was for Don. Scuff it with ScotchBright and > > follow with PrepSol. And be certain you do not use a can of > silicone > > lubricant anywhere nearby. Fisheyes will be the result. Just do > not > > have that stuff in the shop. > > > Leroy Eckert > > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors' > > > Niceville, FL > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Gardner Yeaw > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 6:40 PM > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Painting project > > > > > > > > > What did you do to prep the galvanized surface to insure the > > primer > > > got a good hold? > > > > > > Gardner > > > 78fc33 > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner" > > > > > > > > > > > Nason calls for 2 coats with metallic, but I find that it is > > color- > > > specific dependent on the amount of pigment in the paint. The > > gold > > > has to go on very thin or it will run - less solids, so it > takes > > 5 > > > coats. The red takes 2, and the blue and silver take 3. Nason > > could > > > probably be considered "econo Imron" and it is not easy to > tell > > how > > > they differ, since Imron has a couple of non-clearcoat > products > > > (3500 and 400) as well. > > > > > > > > On 7/16/2007 at 5:43 PM Leroy Eckert wrote: > > > > > > > > >I have not used that product. I would expect that you could > > thin > > > the > > > > >final coat (I use three coats with Impron)with a little > more > > > reducer to > > > > >create a wet coat to get the paint to lay out if you are > not > > > satisfied. > > > > >Just do not get in a hurry.That is what I did with Imron on > > my > > > airplane. > > > > >To aid in prep work, the most important part of a paint > job, > > I > > > use a hand > > > > >held sand blaster I purchased from the paint store. > Blasting > > sand > > > from Ace > > > > >Hardware can speed up the prep process over rivets and > tight > > > spots. You > > > > >gotta shower when finished. The rain drop spots may be able > > to be > > > removed > > > > >by wet sanding and buffing with compound. > > > > >Looks really good. Great job. > > > > >Leroy Eckert > > > > >1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > > > > >Niceville, FL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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07-16-2007, 15:11
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Rob,
What is in Elkhart Indiana? Gardner 78FC33 - In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson" > > I think you just described Elkhart Indiana > > On 16/07/07, Gardner Yeaw > > > > Leroy, > > If I have a choice of taking a trip or working on the Bird, the > > trip wins. What I dream of is a restoration campground. One that > > caters to folks restoring coaches of any make. It would be great if > > such a place existed. Imagine having a group of experienced RV > > technicians, mechanics, interior specialists, and other kinds of > > services in a concentraited area. Pull in, set up, and get out the > > Mastercard. > > > > Gardner > > 78FC33 > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > "Leroy Eckert" > > > > > > > > I know what you mean. I spent 5 years of Sundays restoring an > > airplane. It is gratifying. However you can go anywhere in your > > coach with it half painted and that is perfectly ok. Enjoy it while > > you work on it. It took me five years to fly it then I sold it to my > > partner. lol > > > Leroy Eckert > > > 1990 WB-Smoke N Mirrors" > > > Niceville, FL > > > Royale Conversion > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Gardner Yeaw > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:08 PM > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Painting project > > > > > > > > > Leroy, > > > I know you are right about one section at a time. My problem is > > > that I still have a job. I can only get to work on the Bird one > > day > > > per good weather weekend. There just ain't enough time to keep > > it > > > running well, washed, waxed, etc. and think about painting. > > > > > > Gardner > > > 78FC33 > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > "Leroy Eckert" > > > > > > > > > > > You can do it one section at a time if your plan properly. Use > > > seams in the metal taped off properly and over a period of time > > not > > > one single person will ever know unless you tell them. > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > > > > Niceville, FL > > > > Royale Conversion > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Gardner Yeaw > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:50 PM > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Painting project > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy, > > > > Thanks. My paint is pealing in places right down to the > > > galvanized > > > > surface. It would seem that I really should get down to that > > and > > > > start fresh when/if I actually do start painting. I may do the > > > Front > > > > and rear, then think about the sides and roof. In the North > > East > > > the > > > > weather just isn't stable enough for planning a big paint job. > > > > > > > > Gardner > > > > 78FC33 > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > "Leroy Eckert" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know your post was for Don. Scuff it with ScotchBright and > > > > follow with PrepSol. And be certain you do not use a can of > > > silicone > > > > lubricant anywhere nearby. Fisheyes will be the result. Just > > do > > > not > > > > have that stuff in the shop. > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors' > > > > > Niceville, FL > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Gardner Yeaw > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 6:40 PM > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Painting project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What did you do to prep the galvanized surface to insure the > > > > primer > > > > > got a good hold? > > > > > > > > > > Gardner > > > > > 78fc33 > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > "Don Bradner" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nason calls for 2 coats with metallic, but I find that it > > is > > > > color- > > > > > specific dependent on the amount of pigment in the paint. > > The > > > > gold > > > > > has to go on very thin or it will run - less solids, so it > > > takes > > > > 5 > > > > > coats. The red takes 2, and the blue and silver take 3. > > Nason > > > > could > > > > > probably be considered "econo Imron" and it is not easy to > > > tell > > > > how > > > > > they differ, since Imron has a couple of non-clearcoat > > > products > > > > > (3500 and 400) as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/16/2007 at 5:43 PM Leroy Eckert wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >I have not used that product. I would expect that you > > could > > > > thin > > > > > the > > > > > > >final coat (I use three coats with Impron)with a little > > > more > > > > > reducer to > > > > > > >create a wet coat to get the paint to lay out if you are > > > not > > > > > satisfied. > > > > > > >Just do not get in a hurry.That is what I did with Imron > > on > > > > my > > > > > airplane. > > > > > > >To aid in prep work, the most important part of a paint > > > job, > > > > I > > > > > use a hand > > > > > > >held sand blaster I purchased from the paint store. > > > Blasting > > > > sand > > > > > from Ace > > > > > > >Hardware can speed up the prep process over rivets and > > > tight > > > > > spots. You > > > > > > >gotta shower when finished. The rain drop spots may be > > able > > > > to be > > > > > removed > > > > > > >by wet sanding and buffing with compound. > > > > > > >Looks really good. Great job. > > > > > > >Leroy Eckert > > > > > > >1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > > > > > > >Niceville, FL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > 94 WLWB > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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07-16-2007, 15:19
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Hi Gardner. I was in Elkhart to have Mor Ryde put on an SOB back in 2001. I
never saw so many RV related business located in one place in my life. All the parts manufacturers, assembly lines, conversion builders and even RV Junkyards. You could spend a week in just the junkyards alone. On 16/07/07, Gardner Yeaw > > Rob, > What is in Elkhart Indiana? > Gardner > 78FC33 > > - In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > "Rob Robinson" > > > > > I think you just described Elkhart Indiana > > > > On 16/07/07, Gardner Yeaw > > > > > > Leroy, > > > If I have a choice of taking a trip or working on the Bird, the > > > trip wins. What I dream of is a restoration campground. One that > > > caters to folks restoring coaches of any make. It would be great > if > > > such a place existed. Imagine having a group of experienced RV > > > technicians, mechanics, interior specialists, and other kinds of > > > services in a concentraited area. Pull in, set up, and get out > the > > > Mastercard. > > > > > > Gardner > > > 78FC33 > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > "Leroy Eckert" > > > > > > > > > > > I know what you mean. I spent 5 years of Sundays restoring an > > > airplane. It is gratifying. However you can go anywhere in your > > > coach with it half painted and that is perfectly ok. Enjoy it > while > > > you work on it. It took me five years to fly it then I sold it > to my > > > partner. lol > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > > 1990 WB-Smoke N Mirrors" > > > > Niceville, FL > > > > Royale Conversion > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Gardner Yeaw > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:08 PM > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Painting project > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy, > > > > I know you are right about one section at a time. My problem is > > > > that I still have a job. I can only get to work on the Bird one > > > day > > > > per good weather weekend. There just ain't enough time to keep > > > it > > > > running well, washed, waxed, etc. and think about painting. > > > > > > > > Gardner > > > > 78FC33 > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > "Leroy Eckert" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can do it one section at a time if your plan properly. > Use > > > > seams in the metal taped off properly and over a period of time > > > not > > > > one single person will ever know unless you tell them. > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > > > > > Niceville, FL > > > > > Royale Conversion > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Gardner Yeaw > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:50 PM > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Painting project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy, > > > > > Thanks. My paint is pealing in places right down to the > > > > galvanized > > > > > surface. It would seem that I really should get down to that > > > and > > > > > start fresh when/if I actually do start painting. I may do > the > > > > Front > > > > > and rear, then think about the sides and roof. In the North > > > East > > > > the > > > > > weather just isn't stable enough for planning a big paint > job. > > > > > > > > > > Gardner > > > > > 78FC33 > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > "Leroy Eckert" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know your post was for Don. Scuff it with ScotchBright > and > > > > > follow with PrepSol. And be certain you do not use a can of > > > > silicone > > > > > lubricant anywhere nearby. Fisheyes will be the result. Just > > > do > > > > not > > > > > have that stuff in the shop. > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > > > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors' > > > > > > Niceville, FL > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Gardner Yeaw > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 6:40 PM > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Painting project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What did you do to prep the galvanized surface to insure > the > > > > > primer > > > > > > got a good hold? > > > > > > > > > > > > Gardner > > > > > > 78fc33 > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > "Don Bradner" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nason calls for 2 coats with metallic, but I find that it > > > is > > > > > color- > > > > > > specific dependent on the amount of pigment in the paint. > > > The > > > > > gold > > > > > > has to go on very thin or it will run - less solids, so it > > > > takes > > > > > 5 > > > > > > coats. The red takes 2, and the blue and silver take 3. > > > Nason > > > > > could > > > > > > probably be considered "econo Imron" and it is not easy to > > > > tell > > > > > how > > > > > > they differ, since Imron has a couple of non-clearcoat > > > > products > > > > > > (3500 and 400) as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/16/2007 at 5:43 PM Leroy Eckert wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I have not used that product. I would expect that you > > > could > > > > > thin > > > > > > the > > > > > > > >final coat (I use three coats with Impron)with a little > > > > more > > > > > > reducer to > > > > > > > >create a wet coat to get the paint to lay out if you are > > > > not > > > > > > satisfied. > > > > > > > >Just do not get in a hurry.That is what I did with Imron > > > on > > > > > my > > > > > > airplane. > > > > > > > >To aid in prep work, the most important part of a paint > > > > job, > > > > > I > > > > > > use a hand > > > > > > > >held sand blaster I purchased from the paint store. > > > > Blasting > > > > > sand > > > > > > from Ace > > > > > > > >Hardware can speed up the prep process over rivets and > > > > tight > > > > > > spots. You > > > > > > > >gotta shower when finished. The rain drop spots may be > > > able > > > > > to be > > > > > > removed > > > > > > > >by wet sanding and buffing with compound. > > > > > > > >Looks really good. Great job. > > > > > > > >Leroy Eckert > > > > > > > >1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > > > > > > > >Niceville, FL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > > 94 WLWB > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > -- Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson 94 WLWB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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