Height Control & TV Antennas

[Elliot]

Stephen:

Where are they? I looked on your website but could not find any mini state.

Elliot

95 wlwb 40





-----Original Message-----

From: cape0001

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:18 pm

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Height Control & TV Antennas

WE have the mini state for sale

Stephen 77fc35

dupreeproducts.com

888-668-4288



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Wayne Kotila ...> wrote:

>

> My original antenna got damaged and I had to replace it,I ordered a new version of the Mini-state that was on my Wanderlodge originally. The new Mini-state is supposed to be a digital antenna and bolts on where the old came off andthey still are rotating antennas. We spend timeat a lake in very rural area of northern Minnesota, in this location the new Mini-state canpick up 8 channels,a freind of mine with his new omnidirectionalantenna parked next to me can only ever pick up 1 channel.

> Wayne Kotila

> 1996 PT42

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Page Britt

> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> Sent: Mon, October 5, 2009 9:19:16 AM

> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Height Control & TV Antennas

>

>

> If I find the tower raise / lower mechanism ) actuator) to be repairable or find a replacement actuator at a more reasonable cost and therefore decide to retain the tower I might go this route for a new antenna head. Though I've got to admit that as RF amplifiers have gotten better amplified omnidirectional antennas have gotten pretty good. I have an omnidirectional Antennacraft 5MS921 (also available from Radio Shack) about 20 above ground level at our home with premium RG-6 quad shield coax and one (and only one) high quality splitter that passes DC on one side only (to power the amplifier in the antenna). It works pretty well and there's no rotor involved. We even achieve a solid HD signal from the PBS station in Pelham, GA (about 45-50 miles as the crow flies) more often than not. Thinking about using the one of those or perhaps a Winegard RS-2000 and eliminating the rotor mechanism AND the tower. Would not have to remember to lower

> antenna before departure and would have usable off the air TV signal while in motion if anybody aboard was so inclined. No doubt it would not be as efficient as a properly functioning directional unit atop a properly functioning tower but it might be quite acceptable and a lot simpler, not to mention lighter. The choice of mounting location would be the most critical aspect. Anybody else go this route?

>

> --Page

>

>

> Page & Lynda

> 1984 PT-40 "Lady Bird"

> Tallahassee, FL

>

>

> On Oct 4, 2009, at 10:57 PM, freewill2008 wrote:

>

> I took the non-functional Mini-Mate saucer antenna down years ago and waited to see what the best option would be for digital TV. Well, DT is here now and my best option was . . . a new Mini-Mate. It is directional and self-contained; the remote is now wireless and I was able to use the existing cables.

> >

> >http://www.antennac raft.net/ HDView360. html

> >http://www.solidsig nal.com/prod_ display.asp? prod=HDMS9100

> >http://www.starkelectronic.com/5ms750.htm

> >

> >Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

> >

> >--- InWanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Page Britt wrote:

> >>

> >> Greetings One & All,

> >>

> >> Yesterday I installed a new left rear height control valve. Note - as

> >> I'm sure some of you know, It's lots of getting the nuts started on

> >> the valve mounting bolts on the rear of a PT! ;-) Adjusted the ride

> >> height to spec (& my satisfaction) today. Another good job done, on

> >> to the next... which is the TV antenna. It's decided to remain

> >> firmly in the down position, when you attempt to raise it the actuator

> >> makes the proverbial ratatattat noise which is normally made by the

> >> actuator clutch at the end of travel. A search of the forum archives

> >> revealed that the actuator is available from Danaher for the princely

> >> some of $400 or so. Tomorrow weather permitting I plan to take a look

> >> at it. Has anybody had any luck repairing or freeing up a stuck

> >> actuator (liner drive) in their OEM TV antenna? I'm not in a great

> >> hurry to spend $400 or so on an actuator knowing that the rotor

> >> mechanism inside the "flying saucer" antenna head either needs to be

> >> repaired or the entire antenna head replaced also. If the actuator is

> >> non repairable I'm mentally leaning toward the whole thing going over

> >> the side and replacing it with something newer. Thoughts?

> >>

> >> Pushing to get a short list of DMI's (Deferred Maintenance Items) done

> >> in time for a Friday departure to spend several days at the

> >> Thomasville, GA Fly-In. Great little event for any that may be

> >> interested and in the area.

> >>

> >>

> >> Thanks,

> >>

> >> Page & Lynda

> >> 1984 PT-40 "Lady Bird"

> >> Tallahassee, FL

> >>

> >

> >

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

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> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around

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>

[cape0001]

They are not on the site as yet. There a number of items that are not listed.
The mini-state Antenna is $140.00 plus shipping.
If you Give me a call I will help you 888-668-4288.
Stephen 77fc35
dupreeproducts.com

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Elliot wrote:
>
>
> Stephen:
>
> Where are they? I looked on your website but could not find any mini state.
>
> Elliot
>
> ?95 wlwb 40
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cape0001
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:18 pm
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Height Control & TV Antennas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> WE have the mini state for sale
> Stephen 77fc35
> dupreeproducts.com
> 888-668-4288
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Kotila wrote:
> >
> > My original antenna got damaged and I had to replace it,?I ordered a new
version of the Mini-state that was on my Wanderlodge originally. The new
Mini-state is supposed to be a digital antenna and bolts on where the old came
off and?they still are rotating antennas. We spend? time?at a lake in very rural
area of northern Minnesota, in this location the new Mini-state can?pick up 8
channels,?a freind of mine with his new omnidirectional?antenna parked next to
me can only ever pick up 1 channel.
> > Wayne Kotila
> > 1996 PT42
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Page Britt
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Mon, October 5, 2009 9:19:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Height Control & TV Antennas
> >
> > ?
> > If I find the tower raise / lower mechanism ) actuator) to be repairable or
find a replacement actuator at a more reasonable cost and therefore decide to
retain the tower I might go this route for a new antenna head. ?Though I've got
to admit that as RF amplifiers have gotten better amplified omnidirectional
antennas have gotten pretty good. ?I have an omnidirectional Antennacraft 5MS921
(also available from Radio Shack) about 20 above ground level at our home with
premium RG-6 quad shield coax and one (and only one) high quality splitter that
passes DC on one side only (to power the amplifier in the antenna). ?It works
pretty well and there's no rotor involved. ?We even achieve a solid HD signal
from the PBS station in Pelham, GA (about 45-50 miles as the crow flies) more
often than not. ?Thinking about using the one of those or perhaps a Winegard
RS-2000 and eliminating the rotor mechanism AND the tower. ?Would not have to
remember to lower
> > antenna before departure and would have usable off the air TV signal while
in motion if anybody aboard was so inclined. ?No doubt it would not be as
efficient as a properly functioning directional unit atop a properly functioning
tower but it might be quite acceptable and a lot simpler, not to mention
lighter. ?The choice of mounting location would be the most critical aspect.
?Anybody else go this route?
> >
> > --Page
> >
> >
> > Page & Lynda
> > 1984 PT-40 "Lady Bird"
> > Tallahassee, FL
> >
> >
> > On Oct 4, 2009, at 10:57 PM, freewill2008 wrote:
> >
> > I took the non-functional Mini-Mate saucer antenna down years ago and waited
to see what the best option would be for digital TV. Well, DT is here now and my
best option was . . . a new Mini-Mate. It is directional and self-contained; the
remote is now wireless and I was able to use the existing cables.
> > >
> > >http://www.antennac raft.net/ HDView360. html
> > >http://www.solidsig nal.com/prod_ display.asp? prod=HDMS9100
> > >http://www.starkelectronic.com/5ms750.htm
> > >
> > >Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
> > >
> > >--- In?WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Page Britt wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Greetings One & All,
> > >>?
> > >> Yesterday I installed a new left rear height control valve. Note - as?
> > >> I'm sure some of you know, It's lots of getting the nuts started on?
> > >> the valve mounting bolts on the rear of a PT! ;-) Adjusted the ride?
> > >> height to spec (& my satisfaction) today. Another good job done, on?
> > >> to the next... which is the TV antenna. It's decided to remain?
> > >> firmly in the down position, when you attempt to raise it the actuator?
> > >> makes the proverbial ratatattat noise which is normally made by the?
> > >> actuator clutch at the end of travel. A search of the forum archives?
> > >> revealed that the actuator is available from Danaher for the princely?
> > >> some of $400 or so. Tomorrow weather permitting I plan to take a look?
> > >> at it. Has anybody had any luck repairing or freeing up a stuck?
> > >> actuator (liner drive) in their OEM TV antenna? I'm not in a great?
> > >> hurry to spend $400 or so on an actuator knowing that the rotor?
> > >> mechanism inside the "flying saucer" antenna head either needs to be?
> > >> repaired or the entire antenna head replaced also. If the actuator is?
> > >> non repairable I'm mentally leaning toward the whole thing going over?
> > >> the side and replacing it with something newer. Thoughts?
> > >>?
> > >> Pushing to get a short list of DMI's (Deferred Maintenance Items) done?
> > >> in time for a Friday departure to spend several days at the?
> > >> Thomasville, GA Fly-In. Great little event for any that may be?
> > >> interested and in the area.
> > >>?
> > >>?
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>?
> > >> Page & Lynda
> > >> 1984 PT-40 "Lady Bird"
> > >> Tallahassee, FL
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>

[nytexcel]

Wayne, how do you pick up the 8 channels? Do you rotate to get them, or get them all no matter where it is pointed? And if you rotate, how do you know where to point it?

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Kotila wrote:
>
> My original antenna got damaged and I had to replace it,I ordered a new version of the Mini-state that was on my Wanderlodge originally. The new Mini-state is supposed to be a digital antenna and bolts on where the old came off andthey still are rotating antennas. We spend timeat a lake in very rural area of northern Minnesota, in this location the new Mini-state canpick up 8 channels,a freind of mine with his new omnidirectionalantenna parked next to me can only ever pick up 1 channel.
> Wayne Kotila
> 1996 PT42



Fred
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__________________

Fred & Wendy Bellows

Queen Creek, AZ (so.east Phx)

'90 SP36

"Maunder Maximum"

photos of coach
and upgrades

current location

[cape0001]

I will be at the rats Rally Save the shipping

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Elliot wrote:
>
>
> Stephen:
>
> Where are they? I looked on your website but could not find any mini state.
>
> Elliot
>
> ?95 wlwb 40
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cape0001
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:18 pm
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Height Control & TV Antennas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> WE have the mini state for sale
> Stephen 77fc35
> dupreeproducts.com
> 888-668-4288
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Kotila wrote:
> >
> > My original antenna got damaged and I had to replace it,?I ordered a new
version of the Mini-state that was on my Wanderlodge originally. The new
Mini-state is supposed to be a digital antenna and bolts on where the old came
off and?they still are rotating antennas. We spend? time?at a lake in very rural
area of northern Minnesota, in this location the new Mini-state can?pick up 8
channels,?a freind of mine with his new omnidirectional?antenna parked next to
me can only ever pick up 1 channel.
> > Wayne Kotila
> > 1996 PT42
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Page Britt
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Mon, October 5, 2009 9:19:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Height Control & TV Antennas
> >
> > ?
> > If I find the tower raise / lower mechanism ) actuator) to be repairable or
find a replacement actuator at a more reasonable cost and therefore decide to
retain the tower I might go this route for a new antenna head. ?Though I've got
to admit that as RF amplifiers have gotten better amplified omnidirectional
antennas have gotten pretty good. ?I have an omnidirectional Antennacraft 5MS921
(also available from Radio Shack) about 20 above ground level at our home with
premium RG-6 quad shield coax and one (and only one) high quality splitter that
passes DC on one side only (to power the amplifier in the antenna). ?It works
pretty well and there's no rotor involved. ?We even achieve a solid HD signal
from the PBS station in Pelham, GA (about 45-50 miles as the crow flies) more
often than not. ?Thinking about using the one of those or perhaps a Winegard
RS-2000 and eliminating the rotor mechanism AND the tower. ?Would not have to
remember to lower
> > antenna before departure and would have usable off the air TV signal while
in motion if anybody aboard was so inclined. ?No doubt it would not be as
efficient as a properly functioning directional unit atop a properly functioning
tower but it might be quite acceptable and a lot simpler, not to mention
lighter. ?The choice of mounting location would be the most critical aspect.
?Anybody else go this route?
> >
> > --Page
> >
> >
> > Page & Lynda
> > 1984 PT-40 "Lady Bird"
> > Tallahassee, FL
> >
> >
> > On Oct 4, 2009, at 10:57 PM, freewill2008 wrote:
> >
> > I took the non-functional Mini-Mate saucer antenna down years ago and waited
to see what the best option would be for digital TV. Well, DT is here now and my
best option was . . . a new Mini-Mate. It is directional and self-contained; the
remote is now wireless and I was able to use the existing cables.
> > >
> > >http://www.antennac raft.net/ HDView360. html
> > >http://www.solidsig nal.com/prod_ display.asp? prod=HDMS9100
> > >http://www.starkelectronic.com/5ms750.htm
> > >
> > >Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
> > >
> > >--- In?WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Page Britt wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Greetings One & All,
> > >>?
> > >> Yesterday I installed a new left rear height control valve. Note - as?
> > >> I'm sure some of you know, It's lots of getting the nuts started on?
> > >> the valve mounting bolts on the rear of a PT! ;-) Adjusted the ride?
> > >> height to spec (& my satisfaction) today. Another good job done, on?
> > >> to the next... which is the TV antenna. It's decided to remain?
> > >> firmly in the down position, when you attempt to raise it the actuator?
> > >> makes the proverbial ratatattat noise which is normally made by the?
> > >> actuator clutch at the end of travel. A search of the forum archives?
> > >> revealed that the actuator is available from Danaher for the princely?
> > >> some of $400 or so. Tomorrow weather permitting I plan to take a look?
> > >> at it. Has anybody had any luck repairing or freeing up a stuck?
> > >> actuator (liner drive) in their OEM TV antenna? I'm not in a great?
> > >> hurry to spend $400 or so on an actuator knowing that the rotor?
> > >> mechanism inside the "flying saucer" antenna head either needs to be?
> > >> repaired or the entire antenna head replaced also. If the actuator is?
> > >> non repairable I'm mentally leaning toward the whole thing going over?
> > >> the side and replacing it with something newer. Thoughts?
> > >>?
> > >> Pushing to get a short list of DMI's (Deferred Maintenance Items) done?
> > >> in time for a Friday departure to spend several days at the?
> > >> Thomasville, GA Fly-In. Great little event for any that may be?
> > >> interested and in the area.
> > >>?
> > >>?
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>?
> > >> Page & Lynda
> > >> 1984 PT-40 "Lady Bird"
> > >> Tallahassee, FL
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>

[Wayne Kotila]

I do a channel scan with the tv or converter box (if it's a non digital tv), then if I am receiving any channels, I tune into one and then rotate the antenna until you find the point that gives the best reception on that channel. In many cases the signal you just tuned in on will be coming from the nearest big town or city and now that your antenna is rotated in that direction you usually will have gained additional channels coming from that town. If I do a channel scan and still can't receive any channels, then rotate the antenna a little and do another scan. If after doing that severalattempts there still are no tv channels then it's probably an area with no accessible tv signals.

You can buy a newMini-State antenna fromSolid Signal, they are $124.79 plus shipping.This is the newest model with a wireless rotate control, the hard wired rotate control has been discontinued.

Wayne Kotila

1996 PT42

---

From: nytexcel
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 6, 2009 2:23:46 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Height Control & TV Antennas

Wayne, how do you pick up the 8 channels? Do you rotate to get them, or get them all no matter where it is pointed? And if you rotate, how do you know where to point it?

--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Wayne Kotila wrote:
>
> My original antenna got damaged and I had to replace it,I ordered a new version of the Mini-state that was on my Wanderlodge originally. The new Mini-state is supposed to be a digital antenna and bolts on where the old came off andthey still are rotating antennas. We spend timeat a lake in very rural area of northern Minnesota, in this location the new Mini-state canpick up 8 channels,a freind of mine with his new omnidirectionalantenna parked next to me can only ever pick up 1 channel.
> Wayne Kotila
> 1996 PT42



Fred



____________ ______
Fred & Wendy Bellows
Queen Creek, AZ (so.east Phx)
'90 SP36
"Maunder Maximum"
photos of coach and upgrades
current location

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com

[Elliot]

Thanks! Stephen.

-----Original Message-----

From: cape0001

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:27 am

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Height Control & TV Antennas

They are not on the site as yet. There a number of items that are not listed. The mini-state Antenna is $140.00 plus shipping.

If you Give me a call I will help you 888-668-4288.

Stephen 77fc35

dupreeproducts.com



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Elliot > wrote:

>

>

> Stephen:

>

> Where are they? I looked on your website but could not find any mini state.

>

> Elliot

>

> ?95 wlwb 40

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: cape0001 .>

> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:18 pm

> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Height Control & TV Antennas

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> WE have the mini state for sale

> Stephen 77fc35

> dupreeproducts.com

> 888-668-4288

>

> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Wayne Kotila > wrote:

> >

> > My original antenna got damaged and I had to replace it,?I ordered a new version of the Mini-state that was on my Wanderlodge originally. The new Mini-state is supposed to be a digital antenna and bolts on where the old came off and?they still are rotating antennas. We spend? time?at a lake in very rural area of northern Minnesota, in this location the new Mini-state can?pick up 8 channels,?a freind of mine with his new omnidirectional?antenna parked next to me can only ever pick up 1 channel.

> > Wayne Kotila

> > 1996 PT42

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Page Britt

> > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> > Sent: Mon, October 5, 2009 9:19:16 AM

> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Height Control & TV Antennas

> >

> > ?

> > If I find the tower raise / lower mechanism ) actuator) to be repairable or find a replacement actuator at a more reasonable cost and therefore decide to retain the tower I might go this route for a new antenna head. ?Though I've got to admit that as RF amplifiers have gotten better amplified omnidirectional antennas have gotten pretty good. ?I have an omnidirectional Antennacraft 5MS921 (also available from Radio Shack) about 20 above ground level at our home with premium RG-6 quad shield coax and one (and only one) high quality splitter that passes DC on one side only (to power the amplifier in the antenna). ?It works pretty well and there's no rotor involved. ?We even achieve a solid HD signal from the PBS station in Pelham, GA (about 45-50 miles as the crow flies) more often than not. ?Thinking about using the one of those or perhaps a Winegard RS-2000 and eliminating the rotor mechanism AND the tower. ?Would not have to remember to lower

> > antenna before departure and would have usable off the air TV signal while in motion if anybody aboard was so inclined. ?No doubt it would not be as efficient as a properly functioning directional unit atop a properly functioning tower but it might be quite acceptable and a lot simpler, not to mention lighter. ?The choice of mounting location would be the most critical aspect. ?Anybody else go this route?

> >

> > --Page

> >

> >

> > Page & Lynda

> > 1984 PT-40 "Lady Bird"

> > Tallahassee, FL

> >

> >

> > On Oct 4, 2009, at 10:57 PM, freewill2008 wrote:

> >

> > I took the non-functional Mini-Mate saucer antenna down years ago and waited to see what the best option would be for digital TV. Well, DT is here now and my best option was . . . a new Mini-Mate. It is directional and self-contained; the remote is now wireless and I was able to use the existing cables.

> > >

> > >http://www.antennac raft.net/ HDView360. html

> > >http://www.solidsig nal.com/prod_ display.asp? prod=HDMS9100

> > >http://www.starkelectronic.com/5ms750.htm

> > >

> > >Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

> > >

> > >--- In?WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Page Britt wrote:

> > >>

> > >> Greetings One & All,

> > >>?

> > >> Yesterday I installed a new left rear height control valve. Note - as?

> > >> I'm sure some of you know, It's lots of getting the nuts started on?

> > >> the valve mounting bolts on the rear of a PT! ;-) Adjusted the ride?

> > >> height to spec (& my satisfaction) today. Another good job done, on?

> > >> to the next... which is the TV antenna. It's decided to remain?

> > >> firmly in the down position, when you attempt to raise it the actuator?

> > >> makes the proverbial ratatattat noise which is normally made by the?

> > >> actuator clutch at the end of travel. A search of the forum archives?

> > >> revealed that the actuator is available from Danaher for the princely?

> > >> some of $400 or so. Tomorrow weather permitting I plan to take a look?

> > >> at it. Has anybody had any luck repairing or freeing up a stuck?

> > >> actuator (liner drive) in their OEM TV antenna? I'm not in a great?

> > >> hurry to spend $400 or so on an actuator knowing that the rotor?

> > >> mechanism inside the "flying saucer" antenna head either needs to be?

> > >> repaired or the entire antenna head replaced also. If the actuator is?

> > >> non repairable I'm mentally leaning toward the whole thing going over?

> > >> the side and replacing it with something newer. Thoughts?

> > >>?

> > >> Pushing to get a short list of DMI's (Deferred Maintenance Items) done?

> > >> in time for a Friday departure to spend several days at the?

> > >> Thomasville, GA Fly-In. Great little event for any that may be?

> > >> interested and in the area.

> > >>?

> > >>?

> > >> Thanks,

> > >>?

> > >> Page & Lynda

> > >> 1984 PT-40 "Lady Bird"

> > >> Tallahassee, FL

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> > Do You Yahoo!?

> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around

> > http://mail.yahoo.com

> >

>

[Elliot]

Hi Stephen!

Called 888-668-4288, got a fax machine????

-----Original Message-----

From: cape0001

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:27 am

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Height Control & TV Antennas

They are not on the site as yet. There a number of items that are not listed. The mini-state Antenna is $140.00 plus shipping.

If you Give me a call I will help you 888-668-4288.

Stephen 77fc35

dupreeproducts.com



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Elliot > wrote:

>

>

> Stephen:

>

> Where are they? I looked on your website but could not find any mini state.

>

> Elliot

>

> ?95 wlwb 40

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: cape0001 .>

> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:18 pm

> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Height Control & TV Antennas

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> WE have the mini state for sale

> Stephen 77fc35

> dupreeproducts.com

> 888-668-4288

>

> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Wayne Kotila > wrote:

> >

> > My original antenna got damaged and I had to replace it,?I ordered a new version of the Mini-state that was on my Wanderlodge originally. The new Mini-state is supposed to be a digital antenna and bolts on where the old came off and?they still are rotating antennas. We spend? time?at a lake in very rural area of northern Minnesota, in this location the new Mini-state can?pick up 8 channels,?a freind of mine with his new omnidirectional?antenna parked next to me can only ever pick up 1 channel.

> > Wayne Kotila

> > 1996 PT42

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Page Britt

> > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> > Sent: Mon, October 5, 2009 9:19:16 AM

> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Height Control & TV Antennas

> >

> > ?

> > If I find the tower raise / lower mechanism ) actuator) to be repairable or find a replacement actuator at a more reasonable cost and therefore decide to retain the tower I might go this route for a new antenna head. ?Though I've got to admit that as RF amplifiers have gotten better amplified omnidirectional antennas have gotten pretty good. ?I have an omnidirectional Antennacraft 5MS921 (also available from Radio Shack) about 20 above ground level at our home with premium RG-6 quad shield coax and one (and only one) high quality splitter that passes DC on one side only (to power the amplifier in the antenna). ?It works pretty well and there's no rotor involved. ?We even achieve a solid HD signal from the PBS station in Pelham, GA (about 45-50 miles as the crow flies) more often than not. ?Thinking about using the one of those or perhaps a Winegard RS-2000 and eliminating the rotor mechanism AND the tower. ?Would not have to remember to lower

> > antenna before departure and would have usable off the air TV signal while in motion if anybody aboard was so inclined. ?No doubt it would not be as efficient as a properly functioning directional unit atop a properly functioning tower but it might be quite acceptable and a lot simpler, not to mention lighter. ?The choice of mounting location would be the most critical aspect. ?Anybody else go this route?

> >

> > --Page

> >

> >

> > Page & Lynda

> > 1984 PT-40 "Lady Bird"

> > Tallahassee, FL

> >

> >

> > On Oct 4, 2009, at 10:57 PM, freewill2008 wrote:

> >

> > I took the non-functional Mini-Mate saucer antenna down years ago and waited to see what the best option would be for digital TV. Well, DT is here now and my best option was . . . a new Mini-Mate. It is directional and self-contained; the remote is now wireless and I was able to use the existing cables.

> > >

> > >http://www.antennac raft.net/ HDView360. html

> > >http://www.solidsig nal.com/prod_ display.asp? prod=HDMS9100

> > >http://www.starkelectronic.com/5ms750.htm

> > >

> > >Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

> > >

> > >--- In?WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Page Britt wrote:

> > >>

> > >> Greetings One & All,

> > >>?

> > >> Yesterday I installed a new left rear height control valve. Note - as?

> > >> I'm sure some of you know, It's lots of getting the nuts started on?

> > >> the valve mounting bolts on the rear of a PT! ;-) Adjusted the ride?

> > >> height to spec (& my satisfaction) today. Another good job done, on?

> > >> to the next... which is the TV antenna. It's decided to remain?

> > >> firmly in the down position, when you attempt to raise it the actuator?

> > >> makes the proverbial ratatattat noise which is normally made by the?

> > >> actuator clutch at the end of travel. A search of the forum archives?

> > >> revealed that the actuator is available from Danaher for the princely?

> > >> some of $400 or so. Tomorrow weather permitting I plan to take a look?

> > >> at it. Has anybody had any luck repairing or freeing up a stuck?

> > >> actuator (liner drive) in their OEM TV antenna? I'm not in a great?

> > >> hurry to spend $400 or so on an actuator knowing that the rotor?

> > >> mechanism inside the "flying saucer" antenna head either needs to be?

> > >> repaired or the entire antenna head replaced also. If the actuator is?

> > >> non repairable I'm mentally leaning toward the whole thing going over?

> > >> the side and replacing it with something newer. Thoughts?

> > >>?

> > >> Pushing to get a short list of DMI's (Deferred Maintenance Items) done?

> > >> in time for a Friday departure to spend several days at the?

> > >> Thomasville, GA Fly-In. Great little event for any that may be?

> > >> interested and in the area.

> > >>?

> > >>?

> > >> Thanks,

> > >>?

> > >> Page & Lynda

> > >> 1984 PT-40 "Lady Bird"

> > >> Tallahassee, FL

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> >

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[ragster_ga]

Page,

I would be interested to hear your process for the height control valve
adjustment. I believe mine needs a little tuning, but have not tackled the
project yet. What measurement did you use for your settings and where did you
measure? Did you deflate all the bags and then inflate one at a time to get the
setting? Were yo fortunate enough to have a pit or did you block it up enough
to go under but still cycle the valves?

Thanks for your insights.

Glenn

[Page Britt]

Glenn,

The procedure outlined in the Ridewell documentation the blue box is undoubtedly the best way to set it up from scratch or of more than on height control valve is changed at a time. Since I only had to change one (left rear) and the ride height seemed about right before than valve failed I utilized a somewhat abbreviated procedure. I'm not fortunate enough to have pit so when I changed the valve (as I do whenever I have to get under the bus with it elevated) I raised the rear sufficiently with the leveling jacks, dumped the suspension, securely blocked the bus under the frame at the crossmember close to the oil pan. I have a couple of big sound hardwood blocks cut from a 12x12 or perhaps even bigger timber and some smaller ones cut from sound cross ties. I then bled the air out of the tanks before cracking open the air lines at the valve. Removed, moved fittings from old to new, reinstalled. I thought I was being clever by simply disconnecting the linkage to the valve control arm at the arm thereby preserving the adjustment that was previously set. After I let it down and aired it up I discovered that didn't matter due to the fact there is an angle adjustment you can make on the control arm at the valve of 20 degrees or so (I set mine dead in the middle). The old one was apparently set a bit different plus I'm sure there is some variation in tolerances between individual valves. Anyway as to how I set it - I used the dimensions given in my documentation from ground to top of frame, I believe it was 37" front and 38" rear but the documentation is out in the coach. The PT-40 (and probably many of the rest) have 10" frame rails so in my case as long as I'm sure I'm measuring to the bottom of the actual frame I can simply knock 10" over the specified measurement. It is possible (at least for me) on a PT to skinny in between the drive and tag wheels and bend around / scoot forward a little and adjust the valve linkage with the suspension dumped without having to raise and block the coach. I wouldn't recommend this for anyone that has any claustrophobic tendencies but if you have it on level ground, dumped, chocked the leveling jack controls in retract position and the level maser system safed (off) it strikes me as being not really unduly dangerous. I have rather long arms and have worked in some pretty tight places in the past so that helps. Anyway I checked the rear heights (make sure the tag is dumped) and the right was real close, the left about 1.5" low. I dumped it, shut down, scooted under and lengthened the left rear linkage between the valve control arm and axle by about 3/4". Started the engine, aired it up and checked (which you can do without really getting anything but a long arm under held right down at ground level with the tape measure going up to the frame bottom) it was about 3/4" higher. I therefor conclude that the relationship between change in linkage dimension and ride height is roughly linear (make sense when you think about it). Repeat process lengthening the linkage another 1/2" or so. I check and have another 1/2" of ride height on that side. Lengthen another 1/4" to 1/2" and upon airing up and checking find it within 1/4" of spec and only 1/4" variation side to side. Pulled it up the most level part of our driveway and rechecked same result and front is similarly close to spec. Visually looks like the same gap between the tire and wheel well as I had before the valve failure. I'm happy, Lynda & Lady Bird seem happy.

--Page

Page & Lynda

1984 PT-40 "Lady Bird"

Tallahassee, FL

On Oct 6, 2009, at 10:27 PM, ragster_ga wrote:

Page,

I would be interested to hear your process for the height control valve adjustment. I believe mine needs a little tuning, but have not tackled the project yet. What measurement did you use for your settings and where did you measure? Did you deflate all the bags and then inflate one at a time to get the setting? Were yo fortunate enough to have a pit or did you block it up enough to go under but still cycle the valves?

Thanks for your insights.

Glenn

[ragster_ga]

Page,

Thanks for the detailed process description. That is just about what I was
envisioning. Many thanks,

Glenn
1986 PT-40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Page Britt wrote:
>
> Glenn,
>
> The procedure outlined in the Ridewell documentation the blue box is
> undoubtedly the best way to set it up from scratch or of more than on
> height control valve is changed at a time. Since I only had to change
> one (left rear) and the ride height seemed about right before than
> valve failed I utilized a somewhat abbreviated procedure. I'm not
> fortunate enough to have pit so when I changed the valve (as I do
> whenever I have to get under the bus with it elevated) I raised the
> rear sufficiently with the leveling jacks, dumped the suspension,
> securely blocked the bus under the frame at the crossmember close to
> the oil pan. I have a couple of big sound hardwood blocks cut from a
> 12x12 or perhaps even bigger timber and some smaller ones cut from
> sound cross ties. I then bled the air out of the tanks before
> cracking open the air lines at the valve. Removed, moved fittings
> from old to new, reinstalled. I thought I was being clever by simply
> disconnecting the linkage to the valve control arm at the arm thereby
> preserving the adjustment that was previously set. After I let it
> down and aired it up I discovered that didn't matter due to the fact
> there is an angle adjustment you can make on the control arm at the
> valve of 20 degrees or so (I set mine dead in the middle). The old
> one was apparently set a bit different plus I'm sure there is some
> variation in tolerances between individual valves. Anyway as to how I
> set it - I used the dimensions given in my documentation from ground
> to top of frame, I believe it was 37" front and 38" rear but the
> documentation is out in the coach. The PT-40 (and probably many of
> the rest) have 10" frame rails so in my case as long as I'm sure I'm
> measuring to the bottom of the actual frame I can simply knock 10"
> over the specified measurement. It is possible (at least for me) on a
> PT to skinny in between the drive and tag wheels and bend around /
> scoot forward a little and adjust the valve linkage with the
> suspension dumped without having to raise and block the coach. I
> wouldn't recommend this for anyone that has any claustrophobic
> tendencies but if you have it on level ground, dumped, chocked the
> leveling jack controls in retract position and the level maser system
> safed (off) it strikes me as being not really unduly dangerous. I
> have rather long arms and have worked in some pretty tight places in
> the past so that helps. Anyway I checked the rear heights (make sure
> the tag is dumped) and the right was real close, the left about 1.5"
> low. I dumped it, shut down, scooted under and lengthened the left
> rear linkage between the valve control arm and axle by about 3/4".
> Started the engine, aired it up and checked (which you can do without
> really getting anything but a long arm under held right down at ground
> level with the tape measure going up to the frame bottom) it was about
> 3/4" higher. I therefor conclude that the relationship between change
> in linkage dimension and ride height is roughly linear (make sense
> when you think about it). Repeat process lengthening the linkage
> another 1/2" or so. I check and have another 1/2" of ride height on
> that side. Lengthen another 1/4" to 1/2" and upon airing up and
> checking find it within 1/4" of spec and only 1/4" variation side to
> side. Pulled it up the most level part of our driveway and rechecked
> same result and front is similarly close to spec. Visually looks like
> the same gap between the tire and wheel well as I had before the valve
> failure. I'm happy, Lynda & Lady Bird seem happy.
>
> --Page
>
> Page & Lynda
> 1984 PT-40 "Lady Bird"
> Tallahassee, FL
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2009, at 10:27 PM, ragster_ga wrote:
>
> > Page,
> >
> > I would be interested to hear your process for the height control
> > valve adjustment. I believe mine needs a little tuning, but have not
> > tackled the project yet. What measurement did you use for your
> > settings and where did you measure? Did you deflate all the bags and
> > then inflate one at a time to get the setting? Were yo fortunate
> > enough to have a pit or did you block it up enough to go under but
> > still cycle the valves?
> >
> > Thanks for your insights.
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> >
> >
>