Leaf springs on older Birds
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08-01-2010, 14:35
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Leaf springs on older Birds
ERNIE:
I did not know u were in the USAF.........I served in AF 23 years and they sent me all over! Hank Hannigan 90SP36 in CA still in OZ --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg > > George, you are correct in that USAF sent us Yanks- grew up in Mass south. Actually they sent me to Amarillo for basic. Talk about a culture/ environment shock. They were going to send me to Denver close to my discharge. Thanks, but no. > > > Ernie Ekberg > 83PT40 > Wanderlodge > Weatherford, Txà 817-475-3991 > http://www.ernieekbergflooring.net > > --- On Sun, 8/1/10, George Burke > > > From: George Burke > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Leaf springs on older Birds > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 7:06 PM > > > à > > > > Now Ernie, You know that back then they usually sent the Yanks down south, and the Rebs up north. I was stationed at Westover AFB from May-67 to Mar-70, (had a TDY on Project Arclite from Aug-68 to Jan-69). Left Ma. for Alaska in Mar-70, got out in Feb-71. The only time that I saw any warm weather was theà 6 mos. in Guam. Decided to get out after the Alaska thing because mostà Heavy Equip Mechs spent a lot of time in cold weather, and (as my track record wasn't looking so good) , I said adios. But to answer part of your question, I would have loved to have spent more time in Tx. Regards, George Burke 1977 FC 31 Charlotte > > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Ernie Ekberg > > > à > > > > > > > > George- were you ever stationed at Reese AFB, Lubbock, Tx? I was there from 67-71. > > > Ernie Ekberg > 83PT40 > Wanderlodge > Weatherford, Txà 817-475-3991 > http://www.ernieekbergfloo ring.net > > --- On Sun, 8/1/10, George Burke > > > From: George Burke > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Leaf springs on older Birds > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 4:11 PM > > > > > > à > > Glad to help Roger. I used to beà Heavy equipment mech. in the USAF,(late 60's), and now have forgotten more than I will ever know. My rear is the L155, which Arvin Meritor said that I should move up to a 19,000 to 21,000 lb. rear with a gear ratio that I liked, as they no longer make the L155, (considered a light duty rear), and they still mfg. and support the latter rears.à A previous owner from the Tn. mountains had the rear changed from a 4.63 to a 5.29. I would like to get a 4:10/4.11 gear but have not found it. While BB was still open, I found out that they never used anything higher than the 4.63 in the FC's or the school buses, as they wanted to get them moving, and gas wasn't that expensive back then. BTW, I think that the L155 rear was rated at15,500 lb. Good Luck, George Burke 1977 FC 31 Charlotte > > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:15 PM, idkgfy > > > à > > > > Thank you George Wow I'm surprised I would of thought the rear spings were 16,000 or 18,000 lbs. This is good to know. All of our trucks have Meritor axels and brakes, we have more attrition with the newer stuff the we do with the older Rockwell stuff. I'm a Heavy Duty Equipment Mechanic for the LAFD. > > Roger > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, George Burke > > > > > You are lucky Roger. The front axle is the same. Part # 0350686 Spring > > 3"X52"X11 leaf. I just saw that front and rear axles on Birds back then were > > made Rockwell, which is now Arvin Meritor, for a little more info > > > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 5:45 PM, idkgfy > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you George are those front spings or rear spings, in your post it sez > > > rear spring group. > > > Roger > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > > > George Burke > > > > > > > > Ok, Roger/Ralph, Here is the only info that I have found on springs for a > > > > 1977 FC 31 with a Ford gas engine. "From BlueBird" , Springs used on > > > > BlueBird chassis are manufactured to our specifications by well known > > > > manufacturers of automotive type springs. Under Rear Spring Group > > > (Forward > > > > Control) is Part No. 0350686 Spring 3 X 52 X 11 Leaf . Application All > > > Qty 2 > > > > . A couple pins are listed as being made by Ford, and some nuts by Bowman > > > > Product Co. Roger, maybe someone with knowledge of a former BB mechanic > > > from > > > > the factory that is working for another RV company could help you, or > > > check > > > > with a good spring company, with the above specs. on the whole leaf > > > spring > > > > assy. Good Luck, George Burke 1977 FC 31 Charlotte > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Fullenwider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi George: > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for getting back and sorry it has taken a while to reply. We > > > have > > > > > a new Birder (Rodger)in the LA Cal area with a new to him '75 31 footer > > > with > > > > > some broken leaf springs and no numbers or where to go to get them. > > > Please > > > > > see msg # 48163 > > > > > > > > > > Curt/Phil here is a, new to him, Birder that needs info on the Left > > > Coast > > > > > Bird group. > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > > > > > > > > > > > George Burke > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ralph, Don't know what kind of info that you are looking for, > > > but I > > > > > > have a 1977 Bird with a Ford 534CI gas engine. I vaugely remember a > > > > > recent > > > > > > post by someone saying that the rear end on a Bird that he was > > > > > > looking seemed to be either forward or backward of where he thought > > > it > > > > > > should be. With that, I can be of no help. Every truck,bus,RV, etc, > > > > > > including mine, that I have ever seen, the wheels,rear end and all > > > other > > > > > > things seemed to all be centered within the wheel well. Other than > > > that, > > > > > > FIRE AWAY. George Burke 1977 FC31 Charlotte > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Ralph L. Fullenwider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys and Gals: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have any info on leaf springs used on '78 gas Birds? Had a > > > call > > > > > > > today asking me and I just don't have that info. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safe travels, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > > > > > > > "84FC35 "Ruff Diamond" > > > > > > > Duncan, Oklahoma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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08-01-2010, 15:35
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Leaf springs on older Birds
Yes I did, Carroll was great I loved his attitude sad to see him go. He'l know
who I am. Roger --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger > > Roger, > Do you know Carroll Hieland. He just retired from the Los Angeles Fire > Dept.; good friend and neighbor. > Curt Sprenger > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > Anaheim Hills, CA > > > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 9:15 AM, idkgfy > > > > > > > Thank you George Wow I'm surprised I would of thought the rear spings were > > 16,000 or 18,000 lbs. This is good to know. All of our trucks have Meritor > > axels and brakes, we have more attrition with the newer stuff the we do with > > the older Rockwell stuff. I'm a Heavy Duty Equipment Mechanic for the LAFD. > > > > Roger > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > George Burke > > > > > > You are lucky Roger. The front axle is the same. Part # 0350686 Spring > > > 3"X52"X11 leaf. I just saw that front and rear axles on Birds back then > > were > > > made Rockwell, which is now Arvin Meritor, for a little more info > > > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 5:45 PM, idkgfy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you George are those front spings or rear spings, in your post it > > sez > > > > rear spring group. > > > > Roger > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > George Burke > > > > > > > > > > Ok, Roger/Ralph, Here is the only info that I have found on springs > > for a > > > > > 1977 FC 31 with a Ford gas engine. "From BlueBird" , Springs used on > > > > > BlueBird chassis are manufactured to our specifications by well known > > > > > manufacturers of automotive type springs. Under Rear Spring Group > > > > (Forward > > > > > Control) is Part No. 0350686 Spring 3 X 52 X 11 Leaf . Application > > All > > > > Qty 2 > > > > > . A couple pins are listed as being made by Ford, and some nuts by > > Bowman > > > > > Product Co. Roger, maybe someone with knowledge of a former BB > > mechanic > > > > from > > > > > the factory that is working for another RV company could help you, or > > > > check > > > > > with a good spring company, with the above specs. on the whole leaf > > > > spring > > > > > assy. Good Luck, George Burke 1977 FC 31 Charlotte > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Fullenwider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi George: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for getting back and sorry it has taken a while to reply. > > We > > > > have > > > > > > a new Birder (Rodger)in the LA Cal area with a new to him '75 31 > > footer > > > > with > > > > > > some broken leaf springs and no numbers or where to go to get them. > > > > Please > > > > > > see msg # 48163 > > > > > > > > > > > > Curt/Phil here is a, new to him, Birder that needs info on the Left > > > > Coast > > > > > > Bird group. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Burke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ralph, Don't know what kind of info that you are looking > > for, > > > > but I > > > > > > > have a 1977 Bird with a Ford 534CI gas engine. I vaugely remember > > a > > > > > > recent > > > > > > > post by someone saying that the rear end on a Bird that he was > > > > > > > looking seemed to be either forward or backward of where he > > thought > > > > it > > > > > > > should be. With that, I can be of no help. Every truck,bus,RV, > > etc, > > > > > > > including mine, that I have ever seen, the wheels,rear end and > > all > > > > other > > > > > > > things seemed to all be centered within the wheel well. Other > > than > > > > that, > > > > > > > FIRE AWAY. George Burke 1977 FC31 Charlotte > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Ralph L. Fullenwider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys and Gals: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have any info on leaf springs used on '78 gas Birds? Had > > a > > > > call > > > > > > > > today asking me and I just don't have that info. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safe travels, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > > > > > > > > "84FC35 "Ruff Diamond" > > > > > > > > Duncan, Oklahoma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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08-01-2010, 15:37
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Leaf springs on older Birds
Thank you for your help George and for your sevice.
Roger --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, George Burke > > Glad to help Roger. I used to be Heavy equipment mech. in the USAF,(late > 60's), and now have forgotten more than I will ever know. My rear is the > L155, which Arvin Meritor said that I should move up to a 19,000 to 21,000 > lb. rear with a gear ratio that I liked, as they no longer make the L155, > (considered a light duty rear), and they still mfg. and support the latter > rears. A previous owner from the Tn. mountains had the rear changed from a > 4.63 to a 5.29. I would like to get a 4:10/4.11 gear but have not found it. > While BB was still open, I found out that they never used anything higher > than the 4.63 in the FC's or the school buses, as they wanted to get them > moving, and gas wasn't that expensive back then. BTW, I think that the L155 > rear was rated at15,500 lb. Good Luck, George Burke 1977 FC 31 Charlotte > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:15 PM, idkgfy > > > > > > > Thank you George Wow I'm surprised I would of thought the rear spings were > > 16,000 or 18,000 lbs. This is good to know. All of our trucks have Meritor > > axels and brakes, we have more attrition with the newer stuff the we do with > > the older Rockwell stuff. I'm a Heavy Duty Equipment Mechanic for the LAFD. > > > > Roger > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > George Burke > > > > > > You are lucky Roger. The front axle is the same. Part # 0350686 Spring > > > 3"X52"X11 leaf. I just saw that front and rear axles on Birds back then > > were > > > made Rockwell, which is now Arvin Meritor, for a little more info > > > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 5:45 PM, idkgfy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you George are those front spings or rear spings, in your post it > > sez > > > > rear spring group. > > > > Roger > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > George Burke > > > > > > > > > > Ok, Roger/Ralph, Here is the only info that I have found on springs > > for a > > > > > 1977 FC 31 with a Ford gas engine. "From BlueBird" , Springs used on > > > > > BlueBird chassis are manufactured to our specifications by well known > > > > > manufacturers of automotive type springs. Under Rear Spring Group > > > > (Forward > > > > > Control) is Part No. 0350686 Spring 3 X 52 X 11 Leaf . Application > > All > > > > Qty 2 > > > > > . A couple pins are listed as being made by Ford, and some nuts by > > Bowman > > > > > Product Co. Roger, maybe someone with knowledge of a former BB > > mechanic > > > > from > > > > > the factory that is working for another RV company could help you, or > > > > check > > > > > with a good spring company, with the above specs. on the whole leaf > > > > spring > > > > > assy. Good Luck, George Burke 1977 FC 31 Charlotte > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Fullenwider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi George: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for getting back and sorry it has taken a while to reply. > > We > > > > have > > > > > > a new Birder (Rodger)in the LA Cal area with a new to him '75 31 > > footer > > > > with > > > > > > some broken leaf springs and no numbers or where to go to get them. > > > > Please > > > > > > see msg # 48163 > > > > > > > > > > > > Curt/Phil here is a, new to him, Birder that needs info on the Left > > > > Coast > > > > > > Bird group. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Burke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ralph, Don't know what kind of info that you are looking > > for, > > > > but I > > > > > > > have a 1977 Bird with a Ford 534CI gas engine. I vaugely remember > > a > > > > > > recent > > > > > > > post by someone saying that the rear end on a Bird that he was > > > > > > > looking seemed to be either forward or backward of where he > > thought > > > > it > > > > > > > should be. With that, I can be of no help. Every truck,bus,RV, > > etc, > > > > > > > including mine, that I have ever seen, the wheels,rear end and > > all > > > > other > > > > > > > things seemed to all be centered within the wheel well. Other > > than > > > > that, > > > > > > > FIRE AWAY. George Burke 1977 FC31 Charlotte > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Ralph L. Fullenwider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys and Gals: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have any info on leaf springs used on '78 gas Birds? Had > > a > > > > call > > > > > > > > today asking me and I just don't have that info. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safe travels, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > > > > > > > > "84FC35 "Ruff Diamond" > > > > > > > > Duncan, Oklahoma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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08-02-2010, 00:03
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08-02-2010, 00:24
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Roger, Would you send your private email address to "gnburke@gmail.com"Â . I have a couple questions about older Ford fire trucks for you. Thanks, George Burke 1977 FC 31 Charlotte
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Roger <"idkgfy@yahoo.com"> wrote:
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